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Here's the article where you can see the UK version of this graph.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder why abysmal has a second hump around 5? Could it be that survey readers do not understand it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This survey is abysmal

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The UK version definitely makes a lot more sense.

Of course, I am British so that checks out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from the states and I thought the UK version made more sense.

[–] imaqtpie 7 points 1 year ago

Same. Pretty sure this is just highlighting that Americans have a tenuous grasp on the English language compared to Brits. There are some baffling bumps on the American graph. A good number of Americans have seemingly never heard the words appalling or abysmal before.

In our defense, we have a lot more residents who speak English as a second language.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always considered pretty good to be a positive modifier on good, making it a little better than good. Not much, but better nonetheless. I've never really understood why other people consider it to be worse than good.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because "pretty" as a modifier generally means that something is relatively so, but not completely.

Like if you draw a line freehand and it comes out "pretty straight", it's relatively straight but not completely straight.

If you buy something that is "pretty cheap", it's relatively cheap, but still a bit on the expensive side.

Similarly, if something is "pretty good", it's relatively good but not perfectly good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See, I don't agree with this analysis. It works fine for your pretty straight example, but that's because Straight is already as straight as it can be. Something can't be extra straight. But if I were to say something is pretty cheap, I would actually mean that it's cheaper than I would mean if I just said it was cheap. Generally when I use pretty to qualify something, it's in relation to my preconceived notion about something, and that's typically made obvious by the tone of my voice as I say it.

You know, I went into this movie with low expectations, but it's actually pretty good.

but if I had just used good in that statement, it would be indicating nearly the same thing, but with a little less emphasis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol so I agreed with wanderminds analysis completely and then I thought of replying to you and saying, I think you're pretty wrong.

And realized that pretty good to me sounds like less than good but pretty wrong sound's like very very wrong 😰😱😭

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, I already know I'm wrong. The graph on this post clearly shows that I'm wrong and in the minority. But that doesn't really change how I interpret it. I almost used Pretty Bad as another example that I think many would have agreed with, but didn't end up doing that.

[–] imaqtpie 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're not wrong at all. Some people are mistaken about what terms actually mean, that's all that the graph demonstrates 😅. Btw I love your username, it's really clever

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When average has certain people rating it a 9, very bad has certain people rating it a 9, and perfect has certain people rating it a 5, i wonder why people the obvious trolls weren’t thrown out of the data in some form.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Could someone pls make an extended version of the Statler and Waldorf dialog from the Muppet balcony based on this graph? 🤔😁😂😉

Statler: Well, it was good.

Waldorf: Ah, it was very bad.

Statler: Well, it was average.

Waldorf: Ah, it was in the middle there.

Statler: Ah, it wasn't that great.

Waldorf: I kind of liked it."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

funny how mediocre is 4.28 and average 5.43... slightly sad that people who produced these results then go out and vote and do other stuff 🙄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would argue that "average" has a positive connotation outside of a lab and "mediocre" is markably negative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely correct. A true average can be either good or bad on the whole depending on context. For example, an American's average standard of living is pretty good compared to the North Korean's average standard of living. So, when most people say "average" are they, on average, talking about things that are good on the whole or things that are bad? My guess would be a bias towards things that are good on the whole.

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