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"The magazine from the federated server may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance."

I dont understand this issue. Why is it taking a week in some cases for some text or image from another server to make it here? Is it bottlenecking somewhere? If so how do posts from other servers get here in seconds?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@blazera I believe this message is due to the fact that the timeline for these federated magazines is only from the point at which it was added to Kbin. There's no historical context (and never will be) for that federated magazine. This warning is letting you know that there may be more content in the originating instance. (please correct me if I'm wrong!)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@rodhlann

Thats not what im talking about, posts from already federated instances are taking upwards of a week to be viewable from here. Usually server lag is measured in milliseconds so how is this even possible?

Example here https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know, lemmy.ml itself is not blocking kbin requests, at least not on purpose.
But I will try to get some official information from one of the lemmy.ml admins.

There were some issues with the federation of non-Lemmy instances in general.
Multiple issues caused these and affected incoming and outgoing communication.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/issues/106
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3354

The latest Lemmy version 0.18.1, which was released yesterday should fix most of the issues, but some instances still need some fixing on the nginx side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@stanford @ernest > As far as I know, lemmy.ml itself is not blocking kbin requests...

lemmy.ml is returning 403 forbidden responses at any of it's endpoints when the useragent string contains "kbinbot". We know this because we've tried all variations. Brave kbin instance admins willing to change their useragents are able to federate just fine with lemmy.ml.

This is not a Lemmy thing, its implemented at the server or firewall level. Lemmy.ml admins have not responded at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@stanford @ernest Annoyingly, they have not fully defederated. Due to the nature of ActivityPub lemmy.ml users can view and interact with kbin instance magazines and content just fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have talked to them, should be fixed by now 🙂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ernest

Still not what im talking about, im talking about the time it takes for posts to be viewable here

Compare animemes to https://kbin.social/m/[email protected] where posts are here within minutes, not nearly 2 weeks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ernest @blazera I see the issue now. That's unfortunate! I hope we are able to work with the lemmy.ml folks to figure out what the issue is there! Seems like an interesting problem to solve if we're accidentally causing them unwanted traffic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ernest I just joined lemmy.ml until I find out if lemmy world defederates from meta. Idk why kbin.social is getting blocked though.

@rodhlann @blazera