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Does my AIO doing it's job? 13600k (alien.top)
submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Hey.

Just upgraded my cooler from noctua redux to deepcool ls720 SE AIO for my 13600k and installed thermal right contact frame. But the temperature in cinebench still somehow hitting 100°C.

I haven't touched anything in bios except xmp.

Room temperature 32°C

Idle temps went from 45°C to 38°C

Gaming temps (mainly cs2) went from around 70-85°C to 55-70°C

Back with the air cooler I was getting lower and lower Score each run of cinebench but now the lower I get even after several runs never below 23k mark and the first run score got boosted by around 1000 point even though the CPU is hitting 100°C.

Here is a screenshot with the current temps am getting in the middle of running cinebench.

System specs:

Rtx 2070 super 13600k 2x8 ddr4 3600mhz Asus tuf b760m gaming plus d4

Running the AIO front mount with fans as intake and 3 top fans as exhaust and 1 back fan as exhaust.

So are those behavior normal during gaming and cinebench?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No!

You NEED to touch bios settings on 13th / 14th gen!

This CPU won't even last a year without degrading if left like that.

The motherboard bioses overvolt these chips for worst case scenarios.

Start off with forcing the stock power limit of the chip, I believe its 180w for the 13600K, actual usage in normal use shouldn't be much higher than 140w.

Next calibrate the AC_LL, for some boards the value will read like 0.04, on others 40 for the same. The 13600KF I had worked at minimum AC_LL, yours might not.

Start with 0.04 then work down by 0.01 at a time and check it is still boosting in cinebench.

Also get HWinfo64 not HWmonitor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

what about DC_LL?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

217W package power means that your cpu is overvolted by motherboard
Normal power usage for stock 5.1ghz 13600k in CB23 is 150-160w

looking like this is MSi board

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's an Asus tuf b760m. So what do you suggest force power limits to default tdp or undervolt or both ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

you should show what core voltage under load in Hwinfo64 or aida64
and 10sec of AIDA FPU to show power usage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Cant undervolt (much) in b series boards since it leads to performance degradation due to IA CEP. You need a z series board for that. Best you can do is lower pl1,pl2 to ~181w. Could try a bit less and see where performance starts to drop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So NR200P Max here with 13600k & b760-i bios 1205

The microcode settings is under F7 Advanced Mode -> TAB: AI Tweaker -> select Tweakers Paradies -> Switch Microcode

There you can select 0x104 Microcode

What i also changed is under AI Tweaker the following two selections:

Global Core SVID Voltage from Auto to Offset Mode

• ⁠Offset Mode Sign: -

• ⁠Offset Voltage: 0.15000

Cache SVID Voltage from Auto to Offset Mode

• ⁠Offset Mode Sign: -

• ⁠Offset Voltage: 0.15000

Cinebench 24100 pts ~ 152 Watt ~ 82 (few cores hit the max Temp of 89/90)

Hope i could help you guys out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When seeing posts like this, im getting scared of buying 13600kf/14600kf and putting it in my tuf b660m board gif

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Cpu is obviously set to draw power until it throttles so not sure what you were expecting to see there aside higher cpu core frequencies maybe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Undervolt your CPU slightly and play around the load line calibration value. A -0.05v undervolt with the LLC at 2-3 should drop your temperatures quite a bit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Room temperature 32°C

damm bro

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I had a worse AIO than you and my 12900K at 300W managed to just hit 100°C.

Your cooler is not doing its job.

First of all, use good thermal paste like Kryonaut or Thermalright TFX, and use a Thermalright LGA 1700 contact frame.

Second of all, ensure your AIO works and double check all connections.

Third of all, use HWiNFO64.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Limit CPU Power Package 👍 Improved temperature

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

i get those temps with a AK620 air cooler and my 13900K at 250w... well yeah im using AC to cool my room to 26°C but still...