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Trump allies are finally admitting election lies were all made up. But the conspiracies still fuel US politics (www.the-independent.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 9 months ago (6 children)

We're talking about conservatives here... People so profoundly unintelligent, they still belive there is a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza shop even after it became known that there is no basement there.

Think about all of the conservatives you know. Is it a coincidence that they are also the least intelligent people you know?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago

It's dangerous and counterproductive to say all conservatives are stupid. It implies they're mere victims of misinformation. While this is true for many, there are millions of smart, rich, knowingly evil and selfish conservatives who willingly design and execute evil deeds of conservative politics.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's not always a lack of intellect on their part. Its the primacy of emotional processes like fear such that intellect is subordinated to those emotional processes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

A person who is quick to anger and slow to understand can be more succinctly described as "fucking stupid" or simply "conservative".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Ah, good ole' "never attribute to malice that which can explained away by treating other people as subhuman trash so you don't have to put intelligent thought into your beliefs".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Or as "a man." Quick to anger I mean - that's the one thing all my male friends have in common. And the one thing I've worked to overcome mostly - not being so quick to anger. And being willing to have other emotions that feel much better in my life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

In at least some cases, they knew emotionally and intellectually, and didn’t care. They repeated a lie knowingly, because they were mad their bully in chief wasn’t reappointed by the flipping EC, which both sides are finally admitting are a detriment to democracy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes they're not dumb, but just greedy and heartless. It's an alliance of all the worst people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I suspect all but the poors are exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know a lot of very intelligent people who are deep down the crazy conservative rabbit hole. These people are so smart they don't even acknowledge that their knowledge has gaps.

They choose their sources of information very carefully to confirm the conclusions that their superior intellect has already come to. Any contradictory notions are obviously wrong!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not just wrong, but liberal propaganda!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Hooray for us then. With all the conservative propaganda out there, it's high time we had our turn at it. And that people are hearing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Isn't that the truth. And it's sickening. Not just that people are dull enough to buy into such malarky but willing to give up their morals and ethics and humanity. Sorry but I've never met a conservative who I thought had the brains of a flea. They are so easily lead by the nose to the their own destruction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The entire pizzagate lie seems to have been patterned wholesale from the Franklin sex abuse allegations. They just lied about who, what, and where, but all the other details are similar.

Regressives are deeply uncreative. Almost every accusation is an admission, because they can't imagine anything outside of their own experiences.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What yanks my short hairs is, we all KNEW (those of us not inculcated into right wing politics) that ALL the election fraud lies were lies and falsehoods, from day one. WE KNEW IT, for a fact, without question. That it takes years for the perpetrators to admit they committed these lies is sickening, and a testiment to the true evil that men harbor inside. A need to hurt and abuse others. It really has implications far scarier than just being a pack of lies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@tygerprints @BuddyTheBeefalo They are just more assholes. That’s been the problem with humans all along. There is *always* some piece of shit that MUST fuck over everyone else for their own gain. Always.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's true, that's the whole point of the book "animal farm." No matter how "democratic" you might want society to be, there's always one group of pigs that feels more entitled to bigger slices of the pie. And will do the most corrupt things in order to get it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh please. Sidney Powell is still talking bullshit. She may have admitted it in court but as soon as she had a chance the shit talking started right back up.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And that's how you know how bad things are here: that people will believe whatever she says in public, but not what she says under oath.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

She is basically saying she lied under oath. She has immunity now for her cooperation so she's on borrowed time. Once she testifies against Trump the mob will turn on her. Until then she'll try to get as much as she can out of this.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluralistic_ignorance

In social psychology, pluralistic ignorance (also known as a collective illusion)[3] is a phenomenon which occurs when people mistakenly believe that everyone else holds a different opinion than their own.[4] Most people in a group may go along with a view they do not agree with, because they incorrectly think that most other people in the group agree with it. It refers to a situation in which the minority position on a given topic is wrongly perceived to be the majority position or where the majority position is wrongly perceived to be the minority position.[5][6] Pluralistic ignorance can arise due to a number of different factors. An individual may misjudge overall perceptions of a topic due to fear, embarrassment, social desirability, or social inhibition. Any of these can lead to the individual incorrectly perceiving the proportion of the general public who share similar beliefs to oneself. As such, pluralistic ignorance can only describe the coincidence of a belief with inaccurate perceptions, but not the process to get to those inaccurate perceptions. Thus, individuals may develop collective illusions when they feel they will receive backlash on their belief as they think it differs from society's belief.[7]

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Thanks for posting this concept, and the background. Very interesting read!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It doesn't matter if they admit it or not, the damage has been done.

These people will keep talking lies because they know their base won't believe the truth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But the media is quiet about this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

You’re literally reading an article in the media.