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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Absolutely amazing. For those who say are saying that it was too extremist of a position, I'd say fuck off. She is doing what we all need to be doing. Oil companies and governments aren't going to help us out of the climate catastrophe that is coming. They simply aren't. Capitalism will not allow it. This is the only option we have left.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (22 children)

We all need to do something. Is anyone noticing the heat waves? Holy shit! We are fucking dying very slowly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We could die a little faster if it helps.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good.

Because it highlights it internationally and brings more attention than if they didn't. Attacking/protesting the corporations which are most responsible for the situation we're in has shifted public consciousness to understanding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't even know she was protesting. Now I do.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based Greta, the one actual girlboss.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (68 children)

The only thing better than Greta's commitment to fighting against climate change, is seeing how much she pisses off old rich men. One day I'm going to make a shirt that says "Your girlfriend would rather fuck Greta" just to watch them seethe even harder.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The purpose and function of the police and the courts is the protection of capital from the people. Some cases illustrate this more clearly than others. This is one of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Turns out that in their demands on Sweden to change the way they apply the law when it comes to PKK demonstations, what Turkey is doing wrong is making it a quid pro quo for approving NATO membership rather than just helping the Swedish upper classes get richer.

Clearly freedom of speech CAN be traded in Sweden, as long as its for cold hard cash.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

"We blocked the port in order to stop the use of fossil fuels that are killing innocent people," she said. "The real crimes continue inside the gate of the port. We are not going to sit and wait while the fossil fuel industry takes our dreams away from us." Asked if she's worried about the consequences of the trial, she replied: "I personally am more worried about the horrible harm the fossil fuel industry is doing to the world." "I'm not going to stop while they are threatening the planet."

Much of the oil and gas industry says that continued production is necessary in order to meet global energy demands. Cutting oil and gas production would be "dangerous and irresponsible", the head of energy company Shell told BBC News. The International Energy Agency has said that there can be no new investments in oil, gas and coal now if governments are serious about the climate crisis. UN chief António Guterres recently said investment in new oil and gas production was "economic and moral madness". This week the world experienced its hottest day on record on Tuesday, topping 17C for the first time.

Our world burns and people suffer so that oil companies can turn a profit. The few are making decisions that will have disasterous effects on the many in the not too distant future.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asked if she’s worried about the consequences of the trial, she replied: “I personally am more worried about the horrible harm the fossil fuel industry is doing to the world.” “I’m not going to stop while they are threatening the planet.”

This. This is activism. I'm not brave enough to face a justice system hostile to my existence like she does, so I'm glad she's there to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also, great job staying on message. Press wrangling is a chore, but it’s so important to get your story out.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like you guys don't understand how the laws work in sweden, you can't just pick and choose who you charge (I expect that it's like that in any non-corrupt country)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even in relatively corruption-free countries, there are often shadow mechanisms the governments uses to decide who they charge with a crime.

Prosecutors can just say they don't have a case, or they can fumble the case purposefully in the initial stages to give credence to the "no case" idea.

We don't have to look any further than how police charge themselves to see how the laws don't fairly apply to everyone. And a simple google search will reveal that Sweden is not immune to police corruption, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

"Disobeying police orders", which is what Thunberg was charged with, is one of those catch-all laws that are purposefully vague in a way that allows police total discretion over how to enforce it.

I guarantee in this case that calls were made all the way up the top of the Swedish government before police decided what to do here.

Basically, my point is that there are so many strings to pull, even in developed countries, that it's often possible to suss out the motivations of the administration just by examining how charges proceed.

What this says about Thunberg getting charged for her actions? Probably nothing significant. Sweden cannot allow activists to freely disrupt their economic infrastructure, especially those involving energy. So they charge her as "normal" regardless of her celebrity status. Though they will be very careful to do everything by the book with so many eyes on the case.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

John F. Kennedy, 1962

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

She should be getting a Nobel prize for putting a rapist sex-trafficker in prison with a single tweet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Though I wish this were true it is not. Romanian authorities, specifically Ramona Bolla of DIICOT confirmed that the tweet had nothing to do with locating him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is a funny coincidence though.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She’s charged basically for not leaving a the premises when told by police, she’ll likely receive a fine.

She’ll be alright and will get a chance to argue in court, a new platform one might even argue. I don’t think this is anything to get rallied up or worried about, civil disobedience works sometimes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this isn't the first time. A lot of climate activists (and I assume Greta included) love these non-compliance fines, since it's basically advertising for them

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Human activity and wealth flows like water: through the path of least resistance. You can't affect change unless and until it is easier not to use oil than it is to use it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Where were you when Greta pulled up with three dozen ships of the line, each with 140 guns to blockade Sweden’s oil port?

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