AMD

im more baffled as to why they are comparing a RX 5700 to a GTX 1070. Id have thought they would have said a RX 590 (instead of 5700) or RTX 2060 (instead of 1070)

60fps with balanced upscaling on a 4080/7900xtx … That’s not a good sign

Se suponía que FSR y DLSS eran opcionales, ahora parecen ser obligatorios en cualquier configuración gráfica.

This gives me hope that Star Wars outlaws will also have FSR 3. 🤌

Enthusiast
1440p [...] with FSR Quality [...] 60 FPS

1440p + xxxx Quality upscaling is just another way to say 1080p you cowards. It's 2023 and enthusiast level is 1080p @ 60 FPS.

Looks pretty though with the amount of vegetation.

I'm surprised that they put the RTX 3080 and RX 6800 XT side by side in a game that has forced ray tracing. I guess that's the advantage of being cross platform and AMD sponsored.

Damn. My 5700XT did Mirage fine on Medium/Low shadows. Now its basement quality.

It's joever. We are officially at the point where devs are using upscaling as the standard to reach playable frame rates instead of optimizing their games.

Oh wow, this is probably the first time I'm seeing dual channel listead in the RAM section of specs requirements.

holy hell so for 1080p you need a 1440p card because not even a RX 7600 is on par with a 3060ti or a 6700XT

Hopefully this is another Alan Wake situation where the game performs better than what their system requirements would suggest. With this being a based on a movie game, I don’t have super high hopes that that’ll be the case though. Going from movie to game and vice versa almost always has bad results.

Also, displaying system requirements with upscaling is a bad joke. This is basically saying you’re not getting native 1080p 60fps without a 6800xt or 3080. Upscaling is definitely becoming the crutch a lot of folks feared it would be.

So with my 6800xt, which should be able to do 1440p high settings at over 60fps easily, I'll have to use FSR just to get 60fps? Great, another unoptimized game headed our way.

So sick of the awful PC ports and such. 6800xt is still a very powerful card yet I'm seeing more and more games require it for 1440p 60fps high or even 1080p 60 fps high. Ridiculous.

The reliance on upscaling tech instead of properly optimizing the game is becoming a problem. And it seems this game has forced RT which is idiotic. RT destroys performance and should always be an option.

Will it be the 3rd game to ever have FSR 3? Honestly FSR 3 had such an underwhelming release, with only 2 games that no one played supported on launch, a buggy implementation that barely worked and required you to do a lot of workarounds, and a whole month after that, no other game ever had this feature. Why even put the release date in September if they know that it's going to be buggy and only available in 2 unknown games in the first place?

Their supporting FSR 2 and 3? what the hell does that even mean? Unless they plan on releasing b4 FSR3 becomes drops.

Why in the f*ck is upscaling included on a specs page?

Well, folks, the game is basically software ray tracing an open world regardless of settings at all the times using compute shaders from what I gather. I mean, what'd you expect from something pushing consoles to the brink? That it would not be equally demanding on PC?

How do FSR 2 & 3 work with tech like ReShade?

ReShade has a pretty cool shader that will make any game into stereoscopic 3D. When it works it works well, but it doesn't work in every game.

I'm curious because I would like to try it for this, since like 99.97% of Avatar's appeal (shtick?) is the 3D.

Upscaled 1080p low settings and only 30fps with A750? At least the game has xess.

NATIVE resolution gang ftw!

Looks capped at 60fps?

If Anti-Lag is still locked by then , please enjoy your frame gen input lag.

60 FPS WITH Frame Gen AND FSR balanced? God, that's gonna be a horrible experience.

I really don't like the direction we are heading.

If you look in the top right, these seem to be based on ray tracing being enabled? If that is the case, these specs actually seem reasonable.

Recently upgraded GPU and CPU and crazy that newer games are already requiring the newest GPUs to play them. Personally I don't think it's a horrible thing but at the same time it just screams horrible optimization.

Is it using UE5?

I honestly don't get this upscaling outrage. It's not a fixed requirement. If you want to play native, just turn off upscaling but you will have to turn down settings to compensate. Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. People want super low requirements, super high graphics with high FPS.

The thing is game devs/publishers want to highlight all the "eye candy" in games to show their advancement and that's how they want to advertise it. They have a certain level of visuals they want to present for the game. So they crank up the baseline and focus on making it look as good as they possibly can and by using upscalers to get to the playable FPS.

Other option is they ditch making games look any better and just keep it restrained to good FPS at native. But then you'll have the other subset of complainers that will complain about the game's graphics looking like X many years ago.

Take Alan Wake 2 for example, The medium setting looks better that some High-Ultra setting games from a few years ago. Running a AAA title 2-3 years ago at 'medium' preset may not equate to running a current AAA title at medium preset.

The games are getting too demanding because they are starting to push the limits visually (partially because on AAA titles, that's something they really focus on for advertising), if your card can run it, great, if not, adjust your settings to match your cards capabilities. If you bought a 6700XT 2+ years ago to play native 1440P on high setting, guess what, it's not always going to play 1440P at high settings as the years go by. You have to adjust your expectations of the card's capabilities as time goes on.

Seems like the only way to get people to stop complaining is to just halt all visual/graphical progress and stick to limiting the game's visuals so they run well on mid/low tier cards.

People keep throwing out "OPTIMIZATION" but on one knows what/how they want that done. WHAT exactly do you want optimized? How do we know the game isn't optimized to the graphics/performance it gives?

What if they just made the "High Quality" preset look like games from 2018, would that now be considered "Optimized"?

(I'm not talking about this game in particular, just in general, it was same outrage w/ AW2 and that turned out better than expected)

GPU upscaling was a mistake. Now devs are using it as a crutch instead a optimizing their games properly.

guessing no DLSS3 then?

I guess that fsr3 will be added in an update at some point since everything mentions fsr2. It will be interesting to see it running on my gtx 1060 since it seems to be a big upgrade on older cards.

So i bought an 1200€ card (rx 7900xtx in my region and at the time of launch) and can now enjoy new games at 60 fps with BALANCED fsr upscaling. We love to see it. /s

Another game with upscaling baked into all presets. "Free performance" they said. I expect frame hallucination tech to be included in these presets in 1-2 years tops

Can't wait to be ridiculed by Alex at DF again for wanting PC requirements that don't include upscaling.

Upscaling should be an assist, not a requirement.

Farewell 1660ti… looks like it’s time for an upgrade

Native gaming died or what ? Wtf they turning pc gaming into console gaming