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AI doomsday warnings a distraction from the danger it already poses, warns expert::A leading researcher, who will attend this week’s AI safety summit in London, warns of ‘real threat to the public conversation’

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

AI safety folks have been warning about the predictable disastrous consequences of turning economic power over to unethical AI systems for many years now, long before deepfakes, predictive policing, or other trendy "AI dangers" were around.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (8 children)

turning economic power over to unethical AI systems for many years now

What's the difference from unethical human systems?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No ethics based lapses.

Humans in a systemic unethical system can be individually ethical using deception or until the system grinds them to dust.

An unethical ai built on unethical data will reinforce unethical behavior forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Then the only recourse is to create ethical constraints. Challenging, but possible, even with current LLM technology.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Folks expect humans to be unethical, and [at least try to] put in checks and balances for it. When it's an AI, on the other hand, lots of folks are too computer-illiterate to treat it as anything but infallible magic.

[–] bernieecclestoned 8 points 10 months ago

No coffee breaks

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It's the fact that ethical people can easily create unethical AI. The core problem is reinforcing biases/stereotypes in the data without realizing. Obviously there are other concerns about purposefully doing unethical stuff, but the real issue is that AI/ML just learns from what it's given.

Examples range from cameras that think most people from Asia have their eyes closed https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/facial-recognition-software-passport-renewal-asian-man-eyes-closed/ to things like Amazon reinforcing gender hiring biases https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-jobs-automation-insight-idUSKCN1MK08G

Ultimately even when built "correctly" AI can be extremely dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Allegedly you can bring a bad human actor to justice, though we typically do not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Upvote for a good, thought provoking question.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

An AI can't be fined or imprisoned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Neither can the rich who run our shit today

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

disastrous consequences of turning economic power over to unethical AI systems

Phew, good thing we've got ethical Jeff Bezos and Elon Musks controling out economies and piloting our governments instead 😅 really dodged a bullet there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These warnings and fears would be a little easier to hear if they weren’t pushed so hard by the most disingenuous people ever. Sounds like they want everyone else to pause so they can get ahead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The most obnoxious ones are not only the loudest but they tend to get more screen time. You won't see Gebru on cable news as often as you might get ol' Yud talking about some vengeful AI god.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Aidan Gomez, co-author of a research paper that helped create the technology behind chatbots…

Is anyone else tired of warnings about the dangers of a technology from the jackass who invented it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Brain dead take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The paper they're referring to is Attention is all you need, the paper that first demonstrated the transformers architecture, primarily focused on machine translation though also found to perform exceptionally for language modeling. Blaming him for others' misuse is like blaming the inventor of the hunting rifle for assault rifles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Focusing on doomsday scenarios in artificial intelligence is a distraction that plays down immediate risks such as the large-scale generation of misinformation, according to a senior industry figure attending this week’s AI safety summit.

Aidan Gomez, co-author of a research paper that helped create the technology behind chatbots, said long-term risks such as existential threats to humanity from AI should be “studied and pursued”, but that they could divert politicians from dealing with immediate potential harms.

Gomez is attending the two-day summit, which starts on Wednesday, as chief executive of Cohere, a North American company that makes AI tools for businesses including chatbots.

The second day, which will feature a smaller group of countries, experts and tech executives convened by Rishi Sunak, will discuss what concrete steps can be taken to address AI risks.

Those fears led to the publishing of an open letter in March, signed by more than 30,000 tech professionals and experts including Elon Musk, calling for a six-month pause in giant AI experiments.

However Yann LeCun, their fellow “godfather” and co-winner of the ACM Turing award – regarded as the Nobel prize of computing – has described fears that AI might wipe out humanity as “preposterous”.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

We fixed it! AI Perfectly Safe: Top Artificial General Intelligence expert releases final publication of flawless logical explanation of new advances that render all AI and deep learning technology completely safe to all human persons and for all applications serving human community lifestyle. Dangeous AI hypotheses debunked and field of AI safety regarded obsolete by scientific consensus.

Expert now plans to return to remote hometown in Siberia for permanent retirement and will travel by undisclosed route for non-AI-related security concerns.