The best email client ♥️
this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
295 points (97.4% liked)
Linux
48429 readers
770 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
It's my daily driver. It has incredible compatibility and very nice features, for example the rule based filter actions, header matching, which immensely boosts my workflow efficiency. Not to mention the calendars and tasks integration and the great extensibility via the plugin system.
Thunderbird is a great example of community driven awesomeness.
Is the maildir support still considered experimental/buggy? It's the main issue that's been preventing me from using. it.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/watch?v=XYqkOxZMsfU&t=5s
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
❤️
Now they should create a decent and light carddav and caldav server because what exists today is a mess. Not all features are supported, notifications for invites and whatnot aren't even good or present in most cases and things break. Radicale is python thus not reliable, buggy and not functional for a large scale deployment (> 50 users) and Baikal lacks features.
notifications for invites and whatnot aren’t even good or present in most cases
A CalDAV server doesn't do notifications. Its job is to store event definitions, period. Even if it wanted to, it can't interpret the definitions (because it's not its job). For example if you define an event as recurring every week the CalDAV server only holds one copy of the event that says "recurring every week". You need a calendar client to create an instance of the event for every week, and to email participants and so on. So what you really want is either a calendar client app or a groupware solution (which integrates the extra features around a calendar server).
A CalDAV server doesn’t do notifications. Its job is to store event definitions, period. Even if it wanted to, it can’t interpret the definitions (because it’s not its job)
No, you're wrong. Gmail as CalDav server does it, it emails everyone when you setup an event. Baikal also does it but its kind of rudimentary and Radicale has a ticket open for it.
The Google apps are a groupware suit (which happens to have a CalDAV interface, which is incomplete btw because Google likes to keep some features proprietary).
Great you're picking on the least interesting fact of my post. Enjoy.
If you've read the Radicale ticket you saw that the contributors agree with me and aren't eager to implement such a feature.
I'm just trying to help you. If you need email notifications you should look at groupware products like NextCloud, not CalDAV servers. But be aware that groupware software often implement some parts of their stack as proprietary or non-standard.
Yes sure, as if NextCloud would be a solution for anything. No thanks :P
Hopefully they'll build in support for disroot, fastmail, posteo, protonmail, tutanota, and other opensource encrypted mail agends that don't provide a bridge.
Edit: so the summary of the video is "marketing". Linux, KDE, and opensource projects in general need way better marketing. If Linux could rebrand itself as anything but "the geek thing", I bet it would be much more successful.
I think why Lennox seems so unapproachable by so many it's because there's so many distros and choices people get choice paralysis. And then as soon as they ask anyone about it they get 20,000 different results. Lol
That's true. It's a great strength to have the freedom to do anything with your hardware and software, but a great detriment to those who just want it to work. The torture of choice.
That's where marketing comes in. It guides you to the best choices for the "point and click, make it work" group of people - which are the majority.
I think a lot of the issue with mainstream adoption to Linux is the software suite and not the operating system. I refused to switch to Linux because of needing MS Office (specifically Excel). I needed it for work at my previous job until they provided everyone with laptops during the pandemic. And before you say just use LibreOffice or OnlyOffice, they are fine options for personal use for me. But for my productivity, switching between the two with different shortcuts was miserable. LibreOffice still pisses me off for formula auto completion. If I hit tab while making a formula, I want to go to the next parameter in the formula not the next cell.
Excel does always seem to be the thing people can’t substitute, which is weird because it doesn’t seem terribly more complicated than Word (?)
Excel is vastly more complicated than Word. Word is just basic word processing. Excel has lots of data manipulation, formulas, tables, charts, plus when coupled with visual basic, scripts and macros. I could do all that stuff in LibreOffice if I only worked in LibreOffice. But having to work in Excel at the office and LibreOffice at home would've been a NIGHTMARE.
I'm curious what you mean by that. What exactly do you miss for these providers? (e.g. for posteo and mailbox.org, as those are the ones I am using)
Encrypted mail providers should require a bridge in order to be able to pull or send emails with. Protonmail has "Proton Bridge", tutanota has nothing. I see now that disroot, fastmail and posteo have direct SMTP access 🤔 That leads me to question: what actually is encrypted? Direct SMTP and IMAP access probably means they can read your mail.
There is encryption at rest (storage encryption), transport encryption and end-to-end encryption. E.g. Posteo has transport encryption and optional storage encryption. With activated storage encryption, Posteo cannot read your mail because the encryption key on their server is only usable with your password (which they do not store). Proton Bridge adds end-to-end encryption to Protonmail