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GrapheneOS is such a staple for me now. Been waiting for it to be released for the Pixel 8 since I got the phone at launch... it doesn't have the annoying search bar or the unmovable widget telling you the weather... Regardless of the security and privacy it offers... And its just pretty.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing against the OS, but if your gripes are about the search bar or weather widget, couldn't you use a different launcher?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh, they are just a bonus, I've not used stock google in years and its just something I didn't like since using the phone.

Plus when it cones to alternative OS, there is only Graphene and Calyx as you can still have a locked bootloader after install.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is Google pay and banking apps working?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

All my banking apps work, Google Pay does not

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Most of my banking apps worked but not all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ADP, Chase, Amex, Citi, and my small credit unions apps all work. I think I had to turn that compatibility option on for Amex to get it to launch but no issues other than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Citi needs the compatability toggle, not Amex

[–] Sanguine 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yup

Edit: google pay works and my banking app works (relatively small credit union)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sanguine -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes it does? Literall ordered food with it tonight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, I mean contactless payments

"You can use all the other features of Google Pay on GrapheneOS, just not NFC contactless card payments. It's unlikely that will change. You can make NFC contactless card payments through your bank's app, if they happen to provide their own implementation, as opposed to relying on Google Pay."

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sanguine 1 points 1 year ago

I dont understand this reaction.. google pay is more than just contactless payments..its also the auto fill of payment info on various sites and apps..that works perfectly and is what I was referring to.

I personally dont use contactless, or tap to pay at the register.. ill try it today wheb i get gas just for fun and report back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's interesting. Does it not require root ? Wouldn't that trip safety net ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Graphene passes one of googles 2 safety net checks, most apps will work, but some require google to have explicitly verified the users os, which grapheneos does not pass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No root needed, all my banking apps work as expected

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would look into it but I can't lose access to banking. They didn't work on lineage os

[–] Sanguine 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does lineage have the google play services sandbox that graphene uses?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No if I remember it was just download gapps. Graphene I think is better

[–] Sanguine 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way they implement the google play store on graphene might fix whatever was not working for you on lineage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think it probably would but I wouldn't be messing with it until I was sure. Lot of work to then have to flash it back

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Here's a crowd-sourced list of international banking apps that are compatible with GrapheneOS:
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

The issue tracker has slightly more current banking app reports:
https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report

Some banking apps may be problematic and here are some possible workaround solutions:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/8330-app-compatibility-with-grapheneos

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My gripe with the weather isn't that it's there, it's that it disappears sometimes for days and it's too small to click on it. I tried to fix this by adding a separate weather widget, but that means I now have 2 weathers on my home screen and I can't get rid of the one that doesn't work :/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just use Pixel Tuner to get rid of icons from notification bar and a different launcher to customize your home screen.

I literally have nothing on my home screen. I use a quick swipe side bar with fav apps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want to switch to grapheneos but my work 2fa app is android and Apple only, devs confirmed that it doesn't work on any other os

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is Android, they just cut the Google BS to a minimum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For whatever reason they don't support grapheneos though, specifically said the app won't work on it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Not supporting doesn't mean it won't work.

It just means you can't blame them if it wouldn't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am on CalyxOS and the 2FA for my work, works flawlessly even after I block the trackers that come with its Android app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's just this specific app that (they say) doesn't work on non-mainstream android os's. It specifically generated 8 character codes and you use a URL instead of a string of characters to register it. According to the comments it doesn't work on jailbroken devices either since it scans your other apps and won't work if it finds something it didn't like. If it was just a general 2fa app then I'd just switch to a different one and have switched to grapheneos

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I keep wanting to try this out on my phone, I'm just afraid that I'm going to somehow break it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's any consolation, installing GrapheneOS through the web installer was surprisingly straightforward and easy. I haven't installed Linux since that seems difficult for me, but GrapheneOS was a breeze.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So far it's been the easiest install I've done since i started using Android with a Google Nexus phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its insanely easy, the hardest part is putting the phone into fastboot and installing the USB drivers on windows. Then its just click buttons on the WebUI and pressing the buttons you're told to. The whole process takes about 10 mins.

Check out some YouTube videos on it, its the same process for any pixel (its also the same process for CalyxOS if you want microG)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just use Pixel Tuner to get rid of icons from notification bar and a different launcher to customize your home screen.

I literally have nothing on my home screen. I use a quick swipe side bar with fav apps.

[–] Gallardo994 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is informative and fortunate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good thing they have distanced themselves from the project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know Android plans on fixing this but it's wild that FIOD2 functionality requires Google Play services.

Have you used KISS launcher? I run that on Android when I can't get GrapheneOS on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never bothered with alternative launchers, I tired one once and it drained my battery so quick I removed it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah well it’s worth the effort of installing fdroid anyways.

https://f-droid.org/packages/fr.neamar.kiss/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fdroid is a staple, so is Aurora store