Everyone knows, some deny, almost everyone does not care. Good night.
this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2023
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nah, I would say they don't know enough. Of course we heard about climate change for a long time now. But what does it mean? What are/will be the consequences? When?
I'm pretty sure that it isn't very well known that we'll have severe droughts, less food, climate refugees due to climate events damage, and that we only have less than 10 years left to act.
And then you have The Limits to Growth looming around the corner, around 2040...
People don't know enough, and that's why we need to speak to them.
The people in power know. The poor and middle class does not matter.
true, and that's why we should speak to them, because they vote.
Vote for whom?
Don't know where you live. We have some candidates in France, but we didn't vote for the right one. So right now we're fucked. But we shouldn't stop fighting.
The greens in Germany were voted for and made it into government. Massive onslaught and blaming since. All parties have declared the greens their arch enemies although they did not even start tackling climate change.
The internet exists, ignorance will not be bliss in 10 years.
Mystery comment?
I should have elaborated, there is no excuse for not knowing who represents your interests or at least claims to. The internet was designed and continues to be the most valuable research tool ever made. 10 years is the mostly agreed-upon timeline that we have to get our shit together.
The optimism in this case borders with being naive. We are so far into this crisis and yet our attitude to it could hardly be worse. The changes we would have to make to our lives get more and more profound with every month, and we are still putting them off.
True, but at least we can partake in the upcoming chaos.
It pretty much all tipped back in the Industrial Revolution, and tipped much farther when nitrogen fertilizer began to be made directly from petroleum. At least if we care about original causes more than downstream effects.
Fertilizer is not made from petroleum.
You're right. I made a pretty ridiculous error of laziness writing "directly" when what I ought to have said was more along the lines of indirectly, essentially, etc. As far as I understand it, agriculture at its current scale requires a level of nitrogen input (via ammonia) that can only be supplied by the Haber process, which requires an amount of energy that we have no hope of generating by entirely renewable and sustainable means.
If you mean that there too many people on earth, you are wrong. We just use the resources unwisely. 62% of earths biomass is livestock.
99.9% of earths biomass is either humans, our livestock, or our pets. We are beyond fucked when the collapse starts.