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US seeks delay of Israeli ground incursion for more time for hostage talks (www.cnn.com)
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The Biden administration has pressed Israel to delay its imminent invasion of Gaza to allow for the release of more hostages held by Hamas and for aid to reach Gaza, according to two sources briefed on the discussions.

The release of two Americans held by Hamas Friday signaled that more of roughly 200 people believed to be kidnapped by the militant group may be freed after they were taken during the group’s deadly attacks launched against Israel two week ago.

“The [administration] pressed Israeli leadership to delay because of progress on the hostage front,” and the need to get trucks of aid into Gaza, one person familiar with the discussions said.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's another excellent reason to delay the ground invasion from the US perspective. The further we get from the Hamas attack, the more rational the world media becomes, and the less unquestioning acceptance of military action.

So from a US government perspective, it means the Israeli military has to be more moderate as time goes on, because the global mandate allowing them to do whatever they want, get smaller and smaller with time. And there's less work the US State department has to do ameliorate global outrage over war crimes that the Israeli military might commit if they go in guns blazing

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stall so cooler heads can prevail?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I like it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Something tells me the Isrealis in power care less about the hostages than they do about getting to kill people. It seems like between the people they represent and the people who financially support them, they're the only ones who want to charge in with little to no regard for hostages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree, but it's not primarily about the killing. As another user said to me, when you view this through the political lense of never letting a good crisis go to waste it becomes much more clear how and why the Israeli government and Hamas are using this hostage situation as pawns on the chess board.

Israel knows that civilian hostages, in the early stages of the public discourse, tilts the justification for the use of violence broadly in their favor. At first their rhetorical campaign was focused exclusively on "we must save the hostages at all costs", and you can see in short order they have abandoned that facade because of the external pressure that was coming from the United States to actually make them follow through on that position by requesting more time for negotiations while simultaneously accomplishing the goal of tamping down public support for a full scale Israeli invasion.

Additionally, Hamas has intelligently chosen to release hostages with the largest impact on the national news coverage:

  • All women

  • A mother/daughter combo (who were importantly also US citizens)

  • Elderly women who by their own admission were treated mostly humanely

They know precisely what they are doing to destroy the optical illusion that the Israeli government was trying to use to justify their ground incursion, as well as signaling to the United States that their fight is not with us.

There is no more pretense that Israel cares about saving these hostages because they never did. It was always about using swift military superiority backed by the immediate public sentiment to level Gaza, and inch one step closer to eradicating the little remaining remnants of Palestinian territory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the rhetoric from Israeli leadership suggests they don't even see them as people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said in a statement Saturday they were prepared to release two “detained individuals” whom they identified by name.

Love how the Hamas misspelled hostages...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“The [administration] pressed Israeli leadership to delay because of progress on the hostage front,” and the need to get trucks of aid into Gaza, one person familiar with the discussions said.

A senior Israeli official denied the US is seeking a delay of its ground incursion into Gaza.

When President Joe Biden was asked Saturday if he was encouraging Israel to delay the invasion, he responded: “I’m talking to the Israelis.”

Qatar, acting as a middle-man for the US and Israel, has been leading the discussions with Hamas about releasing the hostages since they were abducted by the militant group.

Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said in a statement Saturday they were prepared to release two “detained individuals” whom they identified by name.

The Office of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded to the claim Saturday evening, saying it would not comment on “false Hamas propaganda,” adding Israel’s government would “continue to do everything necessary to bring all the captives and missing back home.”

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