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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fellow Ameribros will get salty but this is exactly what freedom looks like.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Freedom means won't go to jail for this, but it doesn't mean you won't get punched if you insult somebody.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If you get insulted over a piece of cloth to the point where you're hurting others, you need to get a hold of yourself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So hanging up a nazi flag should be completely acceptable. Got it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Every no violence rule has a "unless it's a nazi" clause attached to it, that goes without saying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, but using violence to stop someone doing it is barbaric

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tell that to half of Lemmy. These people love punching Nazi memes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because punching nazis is cathartic

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

And morally correct.

Never let intolerance take root.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How would you know? You've never punched a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is exactly one type of person who doesn’t want to punch a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Most reasonable people? Anyone who doesn't LARP on the Internet?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No, a Nazi.
If you tolerate people that are intolerant towards you under the guise of tolerance, then you are just giving up tolerance.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

If you think they’re getting upset over a literal piece of cloth you’re probably stupid enough to get beat up over a flag lol

[–] Outtatime 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of people died for that piece of cloth.

I also had enchiladas for dinner last night. I'm gonna need a high quality cloth to wipe my ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your service

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think there's a larger emotional attachment for some, especially those that served in the military and had friends die just to get that flag up the next hill, or to fly over the next objective. In this military case I suspect it's much more than a piece of cloth, it's their memories of those brothers in arms or even the greatest time in their lives.

In Nationalistic countries like WW2 Japan, Germany, modern America, a person's whole identity is contained in that flag. While the Rebel flag is traditionally the sign of rednecks for many or the love of a regional area one grew up in, it's the representation of oppression, racism, and losers from a very short span of time in American history. That last part might trigger some more than the oppression and racism parts as that's their identity one's talking about.

Even as a Canadian I'm saddened to see our flag fly with US political party flags as a protest and how it now represents a very vocal fringe segment of our society when previously we weren't as "Patriotic" with our flag waving outside of Canada Day or sporting events. This previously reserved aspect was yet another thing that was a difference to our southern cousins. It's been hijacked when it didn't have that connection previously.

This can also be equated in some ways like someone's childhood blankey being jumped on and burnt could cause some great grief due to memories of their mother or grandmother that made it. Humans have a great ability to package and attach meaning to things no matter the extreme.

Then one is up against feelings, not logic of right or wrong. Punching someone then becomes a larger possibility as it's emotionally not connected to the logical side of us.

Feelings are a hell of a thing and those burning or waving flags know this and this is why it can get the attention they want.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honestly if you're insulted that somebody is making a harmless joke at the expense of your country's flag you need to lighten up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

That is perfectly acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"you can't do that"

"freedom bitch"

"rrrrRRRRREEEEEEEEE"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Republicans already do this with their swimwear.

Guess they were ahead of the curve for once.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has other uses. Excessive use by others can identify them as people you should avoid, while flag burning is very much in the spirit of that toilet paper.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This will free my butthole.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm against this. Your butthole deserves better.

Besides, everyone knows they make fantastic paper towels due to how oil-absorbent they are.

[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux 19 points 2 years ago

It absorbs oil really well

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Non-american here. Why would u want to use ur flag as toilet paper anyway?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: why shouldn't you?

A flag is a piece of fabric. People who swear their allegiance to it only tell the people more powerful than them that they will do any horrific things they are told as long as it uses that exact pattern of colours. They lose their individualism.

Know what else is a fabric? Toilet paper.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Counter-counterpoint: it'll clog your pipes and ruin your septic system if you flush fabric.

That's really the only reason not to use a flag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

And a flag is not even very good at cleaning your ass. It's close to plastic and just spreads your shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, it's paper. It's in the name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know. I was asking because the person I replied to said it was fabric, and my time working for a paper products company made me question their statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yup, I was agreeing with you.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Ahh, so the goal of this meme is to reemphasize the right to free speech and expression and to remind people not to lose their individuality by being nationalist. Fair enough.

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