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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is literally nothing that GOP members could do that would estrange Republican voters.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, not voting for a pedo enabler for Speaker gets you evicted, so there's that....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Not that it’s not believable that this could happen, because it is, but did he give any proof or is he just assuming and talking out his ass like republican do? The article I read just quoted him saying that as if it were an indisputable fact.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

They could cooperate with the Democrats, that would probably do it

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The only absolute deadline is the end of this Congress in early January of 2025. You have to figure, however, that a leaderless House Republican team would not fare well in the 2024 elections.

I would not make that assumption. Republicans are doing exactly what their base, fueled by Right-wing media, want them to: absolutely nothing. The government that governs best governs least!

After a few months with no Speaker (including a shutdown), they will finally be able to drown the Federal Government in their bathtub. While they may lose their majority in the event of a prolonged shutdown, I doubt they lose more than 10 or 15 seats total.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

That 10 or 15 seats is more than enough to give a majority to democrats.

Then you have to worry about the senate becoming less contested, as well, and what that’s going to do to the Biden/trump rematch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The GOP lost its majority (of votes/voters of the general populace) a long time ago. The only reason they have power right now is due to gerrymandering and very specific rules that work in their favor.

But yes, this could ruin that as well.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

The extreme right GOP wants to disable the Government. For them, this is not a bug, it is a feature. It will ensure that a budget is not passed in the upcoming budget expiration. At that point, not only will the congress be shutdown, but the government will be shutdown as well.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If the corrupt clowns in congress want to go on strike, we should go on strike too- we can hold the economy hostage by walking out of work and protesting until they get their shit together. They are taking our taxes but accomplishing nothing that helps commoners like us with the funds. It's one thing to have a corrupt congress with a republican majority, but it's another thing to have a nonfunctional federal government. It starts with you- spread the word and organize, no matter what your political beliefs are! I say we give them two weeks.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

The most obvious result is a government shutdown when the continuing resolution runs out, which will make a lot of people really mad (even those far-right zealots who fantasize about dismantling the US Government).

There are a lot of federal employees out there who would go without payment. Compared to federal contractors, though, they're the lucky ones. Federal employees will eventually get back pay when the government reopens. If you're a contractor, though, you will probably just lose your job eventually. There are a lot of federal employees and contractors in the US.

And here's a fun one: The IRS would continue to collect taxes, but refunds would be delayed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Wars have started and have been won in less time than these twits are taking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The continuing spending resolution ends November 17 and I think as that date gets closer the more establishment republicans will become willing to elect a coalition speaker with Democratic support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or just elect a democrat with “moderate” pubies support, if we get close enough

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't think republicans will support even a conservative Democrat for speaker. Republicans are technically the majority. I think that Democrats would help elect a Republican combined with minority rights voted into the house rules.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They already laid out their conditions for who they’d support. The bar is not very high,

But are they still the majority of you assume the freedom caucus is in fact not part of the Republican Party?

It probably wouldn’t last very long; but the closer we get to it, the more likely some relatively moderate Republicans will defect to protect their seats- join dems long enough to get another spending deal done and maybe some Israel/Ukraine aid before it all collapses into a dumpster fire full of shit again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Moderation is an ugly word for both parties right now. The two most conservative Senate Democrats Sinema (now an independent who causes with Democrats) and manchin are not loved by the Democratic base. That frustration with moderation is on the republican side too. Any republicans who work with Democrats to elect a speaker will get primaried. I don't think any republicans will "defect to protect" themselves. I think they'll work with Democrats just because they know how bad it'll be for America, and their party, if the government shuts down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Up here in Canada, being the majority only affords you the opportunity to form government.

If you can't form it, someone else gets a shot at it.

Not our fault they can't form it even with a majority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol pubies support

Don't actually change that

[–] PrincessLeiasCat -1 points 1 year ago

This headline is so odd.