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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now do it in reverse:

Pidgey Lv 100

Guarados Lv 20

Pidgey used Peck

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

0- Atk Pidgey Peck vs. Lvl 20 0 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 72-85 (97.2 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

With neutral natures and no EVs it is a OHKO however.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

how did you work all this out??

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've been playing Cobblemon, and they don't sugar coat it. If you kill a wild Pokemon they often drop some kind of meat

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

How have they not gotten sued to oblivion?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Not just that, but there are great feint/death animations when you win a battle!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What platform is that on? And is it any good?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Minecraft i think

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Poor killing move choice... a hydro pump would do more or a adamant waterfall would do even more!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

stab existed Gen 1?

Hyper beam base gen 1 150 power Hydro pump bade gen 1 120 power stab X 1.5 180 power

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

However, in gen1 water moves were special. Gyarados has atk of 125 and special of 100 in gen1. This means that hyper beam would do slightly more damage(~1%) than hydro pump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Used a Calc still Hydro pump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see, Pokemon showdown is assuming that you get the get the stat increases from battling to 100. My calculation is without these stat increases. Like leveling with rare candy. Those 64 points make the difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok but what if it’s Gen 2?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In gen 2 they split special into satk and sdef. Gyarados has 60 satk and 125 atk. Hyper beam being a normal move uses atk in gens 1-3. Hydro pump just gets worse. I doubt the way they changed stat calculations makes up for 65 attack power. Looking at this in Pokemon showdown I think there is something going on with these damage calcs. My guess is damage has a cap somewhere and these moves are hitting it before weakness/resistance multipliers are applied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just in case anyone is curious it seems base damage in the formula is capped at 999 before modifiers. Later all damage is lowered to the defenders max hp if the damage is higher. Pokemon showdown seems to do the former but not the latter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

He created a quasar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Light that burns the sky moment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I miss Brawl In The Family...