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[–] [email protected] 182 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Wasn't like... a huge deal made about how the Teslas are so waterproof they could double as a boat? I mean they can in fact ford much deeper than ICE cars because they don't need air, but also there's definitely tweets about this.

Edit: he said it about both the cybertruck - loads of stories about this - and the model S: https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a21421/elon-musk-model-s-boat/

This is entirely separate of course from the much more basic issue that a car that breaks because of some fucking precipitation is not fit for purpose and this damage report would be indefensible just about anywhere in the world. Precedent for manufacturers taking responsibility for bad products was first established in Britain centuries ago.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And not to mention it was water ingress into the bloody batteries, they're lucky (or maybe unlucky in this case) that the car didn't burn down from the Lithium...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Yeah... that's the one part you need to waterproof, more even than the passenger cabin. Everything else except the ECU is water-agnostic. Those battery cells will discharge and die if you leave them submerged. The pack itself is fine for short spells under water if it is properly made.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is entirely separate of course from the much more basic issue that a car that breaks because of some fucking precipitation is not fit for purpose and this damage report would be indefensible just about anywhere in the world.

Two things here...

The source of this is ...The Mirror. Not exactly top shelf journalism. They thrive of outage, just like the Daily Fail. Keep that in mind when reading these trash sources.

I suspect the owner of the vehicle did a lot more than "drive it in a bit of rain" and is simply lying about it in order to try and get bailed out. Funnily enough I've not seen a queue of Tesla's broken down every time I drive in the rain.

It's certainly possible that the owner is telling the truth. But I doubt it. I doubt it a lot.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've recovered Teslas that have "failed" in the rain. It means a moisture sensor has triggered. The car tells you they it can get to where you need to go but then will need to be serviced. It's a "first" generation problem rather than anything inherently wrong with electric cars.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The issue is the statement by the Tesla rep that bad weather was the cause. Now we don't have any confirmation they said that, but it would take nothing for Tesla to categorically deny that that is an acceptable reason to deny warranty, and state that any rep saying that was at fault. There. Done. Non-story.

If they can't categorically deny that then that implies they actually are employing this excuse for their shoddy workmanship. It certainly wouldn't be the scummiest thing the company has done.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This is not as easy, I mean they're are some things that makes it easier than ICE, but electronical components also cannot get wet and those big boats run on fossil fuel after all.

But what's ridiculous is that rain could damage it (from article doesn't sound like car was flooded, as that would be understandable).

Yesterday I saw comment: imagine that the typical home printer was your car. That's the experience of typical Tesla owner.

This seems to match the article.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Elon tweeted something about the cyber truck being water proof enough to be used as a boat once, I don't know if anything was said about the rest of their cars.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I looked it up, it was the truck and the model S, he's said it multiple times, because the man cannot understand when to stfu: https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a21421/elon-musk-model-s-boat/

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Cool good to know, I saw a model 3 in a home Depot parking lot recently when it was raining and it looked like the driver was having all kinds of issues with their car. I kind of wonder if it was the same thing.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s Lemon Law, it exists in many places

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_law

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An AI tool was used to add an extra layer to the editing process for this story.

For crying out loud, stop that!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Translation: this story was written by AI but we sorta skimmed it to make sure it wasn't too insane.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And it's the fucking Daily Mirror -- a tabloid.

Here's an alternative link for people that don't want to give traffic to that trash site. Or want a story that's not click-bait garbage and has actual context.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay so for starters this article is clearly just a dig at Elon. If it wasn't they would never have mentioned him but Elon makes headlines.

Second, I don't buy it. We're getting one side of the story here. They've been selling these cars by the millions for years at this point. If the cars were failing "while driving in the rain", it would be a much bigger deal.

The " Elon Musk could buy everyone in the world a Tesla if he wanted to." line makes it clear that this is just more Elon/Tesla clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

We’re getting one side of the story here.

Yeah, what most readers don't know is that the Cannonmills / Edinburgh area has been flooding a lot for the past 2-3 weeks. It's not only happening right now with Storm Babet but it was also happening with a different storm the 7th into the 10th...which is when the car came up damaged.

It's a pretty safe bet that the car was submerged at some point. It wouldn't be the first time the guy has suffered flood loss in the area either.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon Musk could buy everyone in the world a Tesla if he wanted to.

Well, that would be $ 314 562 157 350 000. in other words, 3 times the global yearly GDP. But one can hardly expect a common sense from a tesla owner :D /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He wouldn't buy them from himself at full MSRP, only cost.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Let's deduct the average per-car profit of $9500, not pay any taxes, since it's a gift... we're at $ 153 207 089 787 600. Still a few billions above the yearly global GDP.

And I'm using this bullshit fake base price per car that's not even real. Seriously, read the text behind the asterisk, this is outright scam.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t surprise me with those panel gaps.

[–] paddytokey 17 points 1 year ago

This whole thread is a perfect example of "feeding the troll" :D

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

John said he pressed representatives of Tesla on whether he or Rob were at fault for the damage, to which he claims he was told that it was a weather issue. He added: "They said that the battery is effectively submerged in water. How can that be our fault?

The car got flooded, then? That's an insurance problem not a repair problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Due respect and support for Elon hatred, but this story is stupid. No one gets water ingress on a tesla battery from driving through puddles. The family didn't want to pay for it, the horrible "newd" organization (I refuse to even name them) knows mentioning Elon makes better news, and this whole thing is an insurance issue and somehow Elon is mentioned.

Quick, without looking, who is the CEO of Toyota, Honda, Chevrolet, or Ford?

Even if you know, who cares? Exactly.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Incredible. I clicked to read the article, but there was no article! A title and a sentence.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nelson voice, points finger, Haha!!

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