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[–] [email protected] 194 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AMAs died when Reddit fired Victoria, they haven’t been worth a shit in a while.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Victoria leaving was tragic but can we talk about Rampart?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Lol I remember someone in that thread asking Woody if he remembered taking a high school girl to her prom and knocking her up. And the social media manager faking Woody’s involvement just answering “can we stick to the movie?”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They mention this in the article

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not just any publication, it's owned by Reddit's largest shareholder. They must be worried.

[–] can 102 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit created a way to drive more people to its native apps (where Reddit shows ads and generates revenue) as of July 1. But we can't overlook that Reddit was built on people's willingness to provide free content and labor, and the API battle has driven away some of the most popular content and veteran volunteer mods.

Reddit won the battle for API fees, but the war for desirable content—something no social media platform can ever be complacent about—is at risk. And that's not the type of problem that ousted mods and forcibly reopened subreddits can fix.

Advance Publications, which owns Ars Technica parent Condé Nast, is the largest shareholder in Reddit.

This is too good.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the last line in that article gave me whiplash. like oh shit

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

spez: We have always been at war with Eastasia. Victory Gin for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

Tbf Ars is extremely editorially independent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll be damned. I had no idea Conde Nast owned it. That said I can see a more recent injection of $150M by Tencent too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

On an unrelated note, r/sino is now a default sub.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Tldr: iama mods are no longer seeking out celebrities or doing any high value organizing like that. They will do only basic modding.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorry for the meta question, but what’s the difference between AMA and IAMA? Are these 2 different subs?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

AMA ask me anything IAMA I am a

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The latter belongs to Apple's ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IAMA was the subreddit that hosted AMAs.

Both acronyms come from the titling format: “I am a XYZ, ask me anything”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Iirc two different subs with similar concepts, but I'm not going back to check.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why are they still doing moderation for free on a horrible website that is reddit? They should just quit & laugh.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’ll be very curious to see the stats start rolling in regarding any decrease in Reddit’s views, etc. since July 1. I’m still using it, but only about half as much as I did with Apollo.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I doubt we will see any big dent in numbers so soon, if at all. The brutal honest truth is that most users of Reddit are casual lurkers who just want a content feed and do not care about anything else. This is why subreddits protested as they did, interrupting the content feed with blackouts and extremely niche rules.

What may actually happen is that a lot of the content creators leave, which will decrease the quality of the site in the long term and maybe push out the casual user when the content gets bad enough. This is not something easily quantifiable, so we'll just have to wait and see.

But personally, I'm ok even if reddit isn't toppled. Now that I've stopped using it, I have no stake in the matter anymore.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah. In the beginning I'm rooting for the death of reddit but now that I've weaned myself off of it I just don't give a shit any more. They can rake in billions, or they can crumble tomorrow. I'm elsewhere and I feel fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If, you are correct that..

most users of Reddit are casual lurkers who just want a content feed and do not care about anything else.

And, a lot of the content creators and content moderators leave, decreasing the quality of the content on reddit.

Then, these lurkers will leave the platform.

I don't see why these folks would stay on reddit if the content decreases in quality. Especially, if we are assuming these lurkers do nothing to contribute to the content they are consuming.

It's interesting, you actually provided great evidence which counters your original claim that reddit will not be affected by all of this bad publicity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The point of contention which is why I believe as above is that the standards of most people still on reddit are fairly low. Reddit has been going downhill for years, this much is known; it's only now, with this latest screw up, that I, (assumedly) you, and many others have decided to jump ship. I, personally, willfully ignored much of the enshittification of reddit, content that I could use third party tools and apps to make up for it's deficiencies; now that reddit is showing they don't care about us and are tearing down those tools, I'm gone.

But for many others, they don't care about any of the current goings on. Many do not even understand how the site actually works, confusing mods with admins as the same thing and not even getting that a sub could shut down (I was a mod, and saw many pieces of mod mail that amounted to "why can't I see posts here help"). Their standards for how bad things can get until they'll make a change in their browsing habits are surprisingly resilient.

[–] Corkyskog 2 points 1 year ago

You can't talk about the long term outlook of Reddit in a vacuum though. The biggest thing that will lead to Reddits downfall is if something like Lemmy actually replaces it. People won't stop using reddit and do nothing. They will stop using reddit to move to another platform though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I deleted my account, I still browse on desktop but I won’t interact.

I’m glad RES lets you block subreddits even if logged out, because there’s some real shitholes which appear if you aren’t logged in

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I’m only using Reddit on Safari now that Apollo is gone and, even then, my use has been minimal since the blackout last month.

It will be slow, but Reddit’s death will be fine for me. I will definitely miss the smaller, niche communities, but I think they’ll all find a way to carry on either through Lemmy, et al, or whatever rises from there.

Reddit’s decisions, from investing in NFTs to letting go of Victoria way back when, have all been contributing to the inevitable, but when the content providers leave - and they are - the site will just collapse. My schadenfreude lies in Reddit never even realizing its IPO after all this drama.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I only use it when I'm on desktop. Their mobile app isn't bad in my opinion, but I just refuse to give them my data.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you can see the posts/comments per day on this site:

https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

there was definitely a dip, but there seems to always be a dip on weekends and with it being a holiday in the US it is hard to say how much that is affecting usage

Wednesday should be the first 'normal' day since July 1st so I'll be interested to see how much it recovers

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't seen a good AMA on that sub for over 5 years already. This, to me, is like hearing that someone shot my already dead dog. Upsetting, but I had already moved on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It annoys me how none of the news articles mention spez's lying about the Apollo Dev trying to blackmail Reddit.

That's the singular thing that drove me away.

[–] SickIcarus 1 points 1 year ago

They’re expecting lawsuits to fly, and don’t want to touch it with a 10-foot pole lest they get dragged in.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's amazing to me how sanitized the reddit front page is. All this nonsense going on right now (which Reddit The Company, and Steve Huffman in particular is responsible for) is incredibly important to any potential future of Reddit The Website, up to and including the possibility of Reddit (the Website, the Company, and the Userbase) becoming irrelevant.

But go browse reddit, and you have to look for it. Right now, the first arguably "anti-spez" submission is from r/shitposting, halfway down page two.

And that's it. There's nothing else. If you wanna talk about the current events of the website you're on, on that website, apparently go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised at how low-value the content appears to be. My Frontpage, which I've curated fairly meticulously, looks like All, and All looks like a Tiktokky shit show.

I suspect they've fiddled with the algorithm in order to put their finger on the scale and better control the narrative, and also, a non-negligible group of original content contributors have decided to step away.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I guess the dissidents left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most people don't actually give a crap and those of us that did probably already left. I think this is mostly what Reddit was banking on happening. The question remains whether those that have left also were contributing the most content through posts or comments which could make the site stale and in turn drive more people away.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would they want to do something for free for a company that shows them no appreciation? This is the right move.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some lemmy instance admin should do an IAMA there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Once things start stabilizing from the latest influx, I feel like outreach like that should be the next phase

[–] urbanzero 9 points 1 year ago

I thought I would keep using old.reddit after they killed RiF but I’ve abandoned the platform all together. Finally got my lemmy account and I’m not going back. Google still shows me Reddit when I search for just about anything but I’m actively avoiding them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Big companies representatives 😉 doing AMAs telling the truth about the horrible things their companies are doing would be interesting to say the least.

[–] afa 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AMAs stopped being interesting a while ago. It was more like a quick press release session with celebrities trying to promote their latest stuff.

I kinda miss the IAmA part of it. People like us in usual or unusual circumstances sharing their daily lives. Like researchers in remote islands, members of ethnicities or cultures that rarely get media attention, cool or unconventional jobs and how they got there, etc. People and their stories.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, that's why it was interesting. Celebs are mostly boring and already have access to platforms if they want to talk to people.

I want to hear from people who I'd normally never get to listen to and who want to share details of their interests.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, all it is now is a marketing stunt. Usually with responses built by some lawyer or publicist. But anyway, 1 horse sized duck or 100 duck sized horses?

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