this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: Obligatory RIP my inbox.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity, is there a particular set of circumstances where knowing how you voted on certain posts a bad thing? I would imagine that if you didn't want people to know you're voting/looking at specific posts, then you either don't vote/look at the posts, or you set yourself up an alt account on a different server. But let's be honest, if you'd be embarrassed by something you're looking at, maybe you shouldn't be looking at it. Just my 2¢.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Some people take unkindly to downvotes. On Reddit they’d just add and “Edit: fuck you guys and your downvotes… pussies!” And be gone.

On Lemmy they can target you personally. Maybe search your post history in an attempt to dox you. Redditors would expect this possibility if they commented and might refrain from doing so to avoid the potential harassment. Most people would never suspect that it could happen as the result of a simple upvote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If I understand it right, due to the federated nature where each server has to sync with other servers, any admin from any instance (that is not defederated) can read this data. Which may be a pretty big problem from Lemmy. One of the main selling points is that you're on instances where you are not the product, but it looks like that all an advertising company that collects and sells user data for profit needs is to just quietly set up an innocent looking Lemmy instance for quarter of a cost, and just get call the data served to them from all other servers. For free.

That's actually way worse that just giving your data to one company that sells it later, because you at least know who has it.

I don't know what's the extent of data that are shared between instances, but I think you can create a pretty good picture of someone from their upvotes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm not worried about upvotes or downvotes being seen by anyone, but I am very worried about other personal info being seen by any admins. I have a very real, very scary stalker, and if all they had to do was create an instance to see my private information...

To be clear, I know that's not what's currently happening, but it feels like a bit of a slippery slope when pretty much anyone can become an admin and things aren't super secure yet.

I'm kind of regretting giving my email to sign up, now. I just don't know enough about this stuff to know whether or not that's a valid concern.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Good. DM me. I'll tell you why I downvoted your shitpost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Good data if you're trying to find the homophobes and transphobes who think they're "infiltrating" and voting down every single one of those posts. They out themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I have no problem with admins seeing what I upvote or downvote. Hell, I have no problem with everybody seeing what I upvote or downvote.

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