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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Same with Signal. That was a headscratcher. Of all the features they could add to possibly compete better with Telegram and WhatsApp, they really did Stories first.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly it was low hanging fruit. Easy to implement, and it gives people a feature pretty much everything else has.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

So low it’s fermenting on the floor with nobody touching it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And here I was waiting for simultaneous phone and tablet sync as well as notifications for Signal. Nope, I can only use one device at a time. I noped out and went with Telegram. Priorities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Look for Matrix/Element, it's the Lemmy to Signal/Discord/Teams/Slack's Reddit. 👍

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd compare it to Mastodon more. Like Mastodon, it has an actual competent non-profit behind it and is very transparent and open up community engagement with a ton of clients. Lemmy developers are... just doing their own thing I guess. Lemmy needs a rewrite tbh, it's still a mess.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not even that... They don't even have desktop registration in the official client, which is just outrageous.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t get enough of my contacts using signal for stories to be useful

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Literally everyone I talk to uses Telegram and not a single one of us uses their Stories feature. It's fucking useless in a chat app.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

There is no head-scratcher.

  1. It was one of the top requested features on the Signal forum for a long time. These things aren't being implemented all over every service for no reason. People want them, even if you don't .

  2. It brings more people onto the platform, which is handy if you ever want to use it to actually converse with other people.

  3. They created the first and only form of private social media in existence.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I actually liked having it, even though I don't use it much. Makes it easier to get other people to switch if this is a feature they were using already. It now pretty much does everything Snapchat does, only better

Snapchat was a privacy/security/performance nightmare

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yeah, I actually like using stories on Signal. I used to post to them much more back when I was still using Snapchat, but it's still a fun way of sharing some throwaway, unimportant photos with friends.

and besides, if you don't want them, Signal lets you disable them and they disappear from the UI completely.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They killed sms for bullshit reasons but they gave us stories

Stories, on an app for secure communication. All the sudden all my family that I set up with it who know nothing about encryption stopped using it because they don't want two texting apps. It's border on useless for me now because I only know like 2 people who still have it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah Signal is completely irrelevant to me now after they dropped SMS integration. The centralized servers and closed source servers don't help either. Matrix/Element is much closer to what I hoped Signal would become. Matrix has its own issues, but I at least agree more with their direction.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting for Excel stories ...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gee, let's take a look at what John did today in cell AE2672...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not proud to admit that I kinda wanna know what John is up to in cell AE2672

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tough, John doesn't even know what he's up to in cell AE2672

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That checks out actually... I'm satisfied with that answer lol

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

stories for messaging apps like WhatsApp/Signal were the most out of place irritating features. no idea why they thought it'd work

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Generally I agree, on Messenger it's an annoying waste of space that barely anyone uses.

It is nice to have if you can hide it, lets those that use it use it

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not trying to please the customers, you're trying to please the shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

If every corporation and social media offers the same thing you won’t notice when they are all inevitably bought and own by the same person.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can't help but feel like most of what's posted here is like the "old man yells at cloud" meme lol. Short form video is huge, people love it, young adults spend a ton of time on it, and most importantly it's profitable.

But I get it, us millenials were the primary demographic on the internet for a long time, it's a weird shift to see things that don't cater to us pop up.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not really, twitch is a streaming service. It's weird for it to have stories. It's like if your toaster also was able to have a small one item freezer. It just doesn't make that much sense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

There's shorts and there's stories. Superficially similar but fundamentally different in how they are consumed.

Makes a lot of sense for Twitch to have shorts, it fits into their core business of streaming. Stories not so much, maybe I'm biased by Instagram and WhatsApp but stories are for personal stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would argue that short video clips on a video streaming service actually makes a lot of sense...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It is a live streaming service. That doesn't make any sense at all. What are you going to post, the first minute of your stream?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

You could already watch previously recorded videos before. You could also previously “clip” a video to isolate a short moment of a stream.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know, maybe funny clips? Notable moments from stream? You know, that clip functionality that Twitch has had for years that allows sharing short clips from the stream?

I'm starting to think you guys have never actually used the platforms you're complaining about lol.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it’s a way for Streamers who go live infrequently can still provide updates and content without forcing their fans to follow them on Twitter. I agree though if a Streamer is going live 4 hours a day everyday why would they create shorts?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I just not like something?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do whatever you want my dude, I'm not the thought police

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly what the thought police would say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Shit, covers blown!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It's more than just being a certain demographic, I've caught myself numerous times just swiping through YouTube stories without thought. It's a way to gauge interest in topics quickly and frequently to sell advertising. It honestly freaks me out sometimes, how easily it is to just scroll and scroll without even noticing....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like the new "samples" tab in YouTube music. A whole new tab, just to show 10 sec versions of music clips.

It seems that in a few generations, the average attention span will consist of milliseconds.

Maybe this generation has already evolved in a way that their brains are able to process the amount of information we are confronted with daily.

This could be our next step in evolution: our brains learn to handle information unconsciously, they grow even bigger over generations, archiving tons of data, we haven't even looked at yet - but can look into, if required.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah another amazing idea like their "moments" which just ended up being cringe. This is just clips but with an expiration date. It'd make more sense to have them copy TikTok/YouTube shorts format, but with Twitch clips that they already have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but somehow they don't like clips and it's a pain to access them now, if the streamer has not highlighted any.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that Twitch still doesn't allow users to upload pre-made videos besides of channel intros. Amazon has the technical infrastructure to actually compete with YouTube on its own turf, and they decide to just limit themselves for no particular reason

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

one can still "stream" a pre-recorded video-file and even make re-runs or their older streams officially, they just want to limit actual data-rehosting, as storage costs for backlogs might exceed any ad-revenue from them

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Inb4 Lemmy and Mastodon introduces stories.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

these features are why i avoid those other sites so seeing it leak into sites i actually use is really irritating. i’m still annoyed with youtube shorts all over my damn subscription feed

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