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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey maybe we can do what almost every other developed country does, what we used to do during past housing crises? Build public and non-market housing alongside the market stuff. Just like healthcare, there’s no reason, even in theory, to think that the “free market” alone will provide everyone with adequate housing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The free market shouldn't be providing healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes. In case it wasn’t clear, that was precisely the point of my analogy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To continue that analogy: there are private not-for-profit builders, just like hospitals are private not-for-profit healthcare providers. So the metaphor is closer than you think.

And when you listen to those builders, what do they say? They say the problem is that city hall either won't let them build, or drags out every decision for years.

So effectively, this is like if municipalities said they didn't want hospitals anywhere. Government can fund it all they like. There can be enough staff. But if there's nowhere you're allowed to build one, none of that matters.

Free market, not for profit, federal funding, public builder, etc. none of that matters as long as municipal governments keep deciding to foot-drag and pander to NIMBYs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, a lot of the problems are regulatory. Especially NIMBYism, community consultations, and restrictive zoning. It can take a decade to build a multi-unit building of any kind in Canada, whereas the same building would be done in months in many parts of Europe or east Asia.

That said, the non-market aspect of housing has specific economic benefits. It tamps down speculation on land value, keeps markets competitive, and ensures a safety net of minimal housing. In Scandinavian countries, Austria, and Japan, public housing can be spacious, comfortable, and beautiful. It’s for everyone, including the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Private sector won’t do it

This has not actually been tried. Every time the private sector tries to build something that's actually big enough to make a dent in this mess, it gets shot down by city halls who make it into a protracted multi-year legal battle.

You don't have to believe the for-profit builders, not-for-profits like Housing Now will tell you the same thing: the reason they can't build enough housing is that city halls have basically made it illegal.

Which is why it shouldn't surprise anybody that all the for-profit builders are crooks.

[–] sbv 2 points 1 year ago

The Canadian constitution does not mention housing, but it does give provinces jurisdiction over property and municipalities. That’s why politicians, for the most part, assume housing is a provincial responsibility.

Huh.