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Shani Louk Is Still Alive, Mother Reveals (www.newsweek.com)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I’m sure that western media will handle this news in a completely rational, reasonable, and non-inflammatory way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, damn!

Gaza is being bombed, I wonder if terrorist groups are also located in that hospital.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

To put bombing Gaza into perspective:

Population density in the Gaza strip is about 6500 people/km^2, which is about as densely packed as Lisbon or 1.5 times as packed as Berlin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The mother of Shani Louk, a 22-year-old German national believed to have been kidnapped by Hamas fighters during the militant group's surprise attack on Israel on Saturday, said on Tuesday that her daughter is alive.

Louk, a tattoo artist, was attending the Tribe of Nova music festival in the plains of the Negev Desert near Urim, close to the Gaza Strip, on Saturday when Hamas fighters stormed the event.

Her mother, Ricarda, feared she was dead after seeing a video showing Louk unconscious in a car after being kidnapped by Hamas fighters.

In an appeal shared on social media, she said the family was sent a video "in which I could clearly see our daughter unconscious in the car with the Palestinians and them driving around the Gaza Strip."

While the video doesn't show the woman's face, Louk's family said they were able to identify her by her dreadlocks and tattoos.

German news website Blick reported that her mother said she was in a hospital in Gaza with serious head injuries.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@CollisionResistance With this kind of news at least Israel will reconsider their decision to bomb all hospitals in Gaza.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We're also getting news (from videos from CNN) that Hamas was shooting at armed security at the rave and that people got caught in the crossfire. Seems they didn't adopt proper fire discipline rules when firing on hostiles in the presence of civilians, but they're not exactly a highly-trained professional army with pinpoint accurate munitions. Hamas also lacks proper combat training for how to deal with adrenal stress and adrenal dump after all clear hostiles have been eliminated.

[–] cesium 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So you're telling me that 260 people "got caught in the crossfire"? Also, the video with Shani Louk in the back of a truck, with Hamas and Palestinian terrorists parading besides her mangled body doesn't really support your theory that they simply got caught "in crossfire". Bullets don't break legs. Bullets don't rape.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I forgot that the average Joe in Israel owns a Merkava that they park at their rave. Silly me.

Edit: for anyone looking for proof, look at the recent videos getting shown on CNN. There are clearly armoured vehicles in the background that are present during the fighting and those armoured vehicles clearly feature the classic ball and chain anti-RPG defenses present on the Merkava turret. I don't know about you, but festival security in my country don't get a tank.

[–] cesium 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fascinated. How can you write so much while adding so little to the conversation? You literally just repeated your first comment.

Military vehicles at the border of a country you're at war with doesn't strike me as abnormal. The video also doesn't make it clear when the military vehicles arrived.

Even if the Israeli military was present before the attack, that doesn't give these terrorists the right to hunt, abuse, rape innocent civilians.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was a one-sided massacre and not a two-sided shootout? The IDF is hiding their tanks and military personnel amongst civilians (which, as established, we have clear video evidence of) and is using them as meat shields.

[–] cesium 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more likely that they just responded to the attack. There are videos out there of police officers trying to return fire. No military present.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does your police force operate Merkava tanks?

[–] cesium -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you understand the concept of responding to an invasion? Hamas terrorists were literally flying in with motorized para gliders. Israel probably detected them hours before they ever touched ground.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/10/exp-israel-festival-victim-jeremy-diamond-101002aseg1-cnni-world.cnn

This video shows that the tank wasn't present at the festival itself, but rather further down the road. Nothing out of the ordinary for the border region,

You still didn't explain how rifle bullets break legs or rape women. Please come up with an explanation before responding again.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1711795219916636662?t=Vi5W0x4P24RU4bK2akfmSw&s=19

Gee I sure wonder why Hamas would be shooting at armed personnel.

Meanwhile, you're literally talking about the girl that, according to her family, is still alive and being treated for head injuries at a Gazan hospital. From the video, it's clear that she is wearing some sort of black bottoms and some sort of black top (and that, while we can't see the front of the top because she is lying face down, the bottoms are clearly on). Moreover, her boots are still on, and if you know anything about clothes you would know that putting on tight shorts is rather challenging over boots. For what it's worth, her top looks like it's seen better days, which may explain why she is being held face-down.

And, get this, you can get your legs into the position she was in without breaking them. Her right foot is pointed outwards and her right leg is deflected in a position that's perfectly achievable without much flexibility. Her left leg is in a perfectly normal position. There's no indication that she was raped or that her leg is broken. Nothing in the video corroborates the claims being made.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you wanna hold a dance party at the border of a concentration camp and active war zone, and be surprised to get caught in the crossfire?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is a terrorist group, don't make excuses or try to justify their actions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The difference between a group like Hamas and a professional army that shoots innocent protestors is...?