this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police lie under oath, a lot

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It was rape, not sex. Please put that shit in the headline. Also name and shame these bastards! Luke Horner, a police officer, groomed and raped a little girl like the sick fuck that he is!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are correct, Sir K, and the headline's been corrected.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

and a hat-tip back to you. :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

apparently this is actually a specific legal distinction here. under uk law this is explicitly not considered rape because she was over 13. if she had been 1 year younger he would have been charged with rape, as is he was charged with sexual intercourse with a minor.

so idk, by legal definition, rape is the less accurate headline.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The age of consent under UK law is 13? Well, so noted and thanks for the info, sincerely.

Also sincerely, that's nuts.

[–] SleepyWheel 13 points 10 months ago

The age of consent in the UK is 16. Sex with someone younger than 16 is an offence. If the child is younger than 13 that offence is always rape. If the child is 13-15 it is still an offence, but whether it's rape depends on the circumstances

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

read the article please, this is all in there.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

"When you became a police officer you would have taken an oath to act with integrity and protect the public. You have failed, and undermined the public’s confidence in the police.”

I don't know a single person who has confidence in the police. Too many times have they fucked over the commoners.