This is wild. Lando P4 is cool.
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2023
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I'm excited for Piastri to get the car updates next weekend. Mclaren might actually be competitive again.
I thought Austria was a bit more unique though, higher elevation and slower corners. So we'll have to see those improvements carry forward.
I wouldnโt call anything other than t2 and t3 โslowโ corners, everything else is medium speed or higher
It's also a specialty for Lando. I'm not getting my hopes up but I am optimistic that they will be more consistently competitive going forward.
You're right, but I am remaining hopeful.
Can't wait to see what he can really do!
What a shit show from race control this weekend. Over 1200 potential track limit violations should give them a spark to think about the whole situation. Imagine not checking the news after the race and be surprised next racing weekend what the hell happened...
I only just stumbled on this news by fluke.
What an absolute shitshow. They'll need to gravel trap it.
Then they will have 5 safety cars and only 12 car finishes!
This wouldn't happen if there were immediate consequences for violating track limits!
Here's the changes compared to the initial classification:
-Norris +1
-Alonso +1
-Sainz -2
-Russell +1
-Hamilton -1
-Stroll +1
-Gasly -1
-Zhou +2
-Ocon -2
-Bottas +1
-Piastri +1
-De Vries -2
-Magnussen +1
-Tsunoda -1
Wow that's a lot. I don't think I've ever seen that many place changes AFTER a race
As an Alonso and Norris fan, let's gooooo
Over 1200 track limit violations throughout the race is hilarious and absurd.
Excited to see McLaren look to have taken a very solid step forward as well!
It would be nice to see the track design changed a bit to have immediate consequences if track limits are violated. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to have all these violations reviewed and penalties applied after the race. Although this is certainly better than inconsistent and ambiguous rules about track limits!
So, I'm not that mad that they're enforcing track limits. The rule is the rule. Either change the rule, or give out the penalty. What really sucks is how delayed the penalties were.
With the amount of violations I think there was just too much for the stewards. Each violation needs to be checked and validated because you know the teams sure as hell will do so.
I don't know how many people were doing the checks but let's say a single check takes at least 10 seconds of "eyes on" time. They reported about 1200 violations. That's 3,33 hours of only track limits violations. And I'm certain some of those checked took longer than 10 seconds. And that's before you get into all the other checks that needed to happen like "Unsafe release", "Forcing another driver off the track", and "not serving a time penalty correctly".
For a track limits violation it's super simple. White lines, keep at least one wheel within them. The fact that several drivers managed without a single violation means others were doing something wrong.
Agreed
Hahaha hilarious! HAMโs not gonna be happy with this.
Totally. No one's fault but his own tho. And his teammate had a such great weekend in comparison. George made such smart decisions in the sprint, and then when it came to the race, he just kept his head down and did what needed done. Was awesome to see! Totally deserved to finish out front of Hamilton.
It tickles me that he managed to rack up a second penalty after all the whinging he done about others going of the track.
This is ridiculous. They should really try to automate the detection process of when a car is going over the line so that penaltys can be handed out swiftly
I donโt think Iโve ever seen this before, although last year was a shitshow too. This is wild. Either the track or the rules need to be changed.
Rule is fine, track might need more obvious hazards because apparently penalties aren't keeping the drivers within the lines. Time to dig some gravelpits.
Yess! Lando P4! I hope they keep the track the way it is next season. Makes for an interesting race.
Aston martin casually improving 2 places with both drivers
They protested for a good reason, it seems
The track feels too narrow for the cars these days, similar (but not to the extent of) Monaco. Unlike Monaco, there's enough surrounding space to expand the width of the track.
Itโs easy to stay in track limits, you just need to take the corners a little slower. Thatโs the whole point. If they keep enforcing it like this, the drivers will adjust and stop pushing those corners that hard.
Expanding the width just means that the drivers are going to take that extra space and get violations on the new limit instead. Narrow the rumble strips and put grass or gravel right next to it so that going over is instant punishment and they are suddenly very capable of staying within the lines. As proven for corners with those hazards and the street tracks where the walls define the track limits.
Holy shit!!! The stewards went ballistic!! Also, poor poor Ocon!!
Happy for Lando but Iโm not sure how he and Perez managed to avoid any penalties fair play to them
Lando was close, he got a black and white flag with just a few laps to the end.
Damn that is just crazy
Did Ocon ever drive on track?