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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They sure did. It all started when democrats wanted to play fair, and then lost out on opportunity when republicans went nuclear. I hate how it has to be that way, but us democrats need to be aggressive and not passive anymore. No more fucking around.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Excellent point…

Butter my buttcheeks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we have an equivalent of RimjobSteve yet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I could not fill those holes left behind by rimjobsteve

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You are welcome, feel free to butter whenever

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

When they go low, kick them in the fucking teeth.

[–] 8ohighdef 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But this year, the Court’s 6-3 supermajority continued to deliver. It ended affirmative action in university admissions, which the GOP has wanted to do for fifty years. It invented a new rule, the “major questions” doctrine, out of whole cloth, and used it this week to invalidate President Biden’s student loan forgiveness program – another decades-long dream of “Big Government Is The Problem” conservatives. And it chipped away at LGBTQ equality, ruling that businesses could refuse to offer services to gay people if those services could be considered “speech.”

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your claim about Major Questions Doctrine does not appear to be accurate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_questions_doctrine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Which part is not accurate?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

After the Citizens United ruling deciding that money is speech, it's clear that bribery is the most compelling legal argument.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Now that SCOTUS has allowed it, expect "no Jews allowed" signs to start popping up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I hear water makes things wet too. Oh, and the sky is made of air!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

More like the Christian WRONG.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It’s odd that the author thinks Republicans put aside their differences and backed Republicans no matter what, while Democrats were seen as stiff and ideology-obsessed and cancelled their own. Republicans generally cancelled anyone who didn’t match 100% of the party line, and 2020-2022 felt like the Democrats put aside their dislike of Biden and instead went with “vote blue no matter who.”

Otherwise, great piece.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

The Supreme Court is simply following the Constitution, as it should. It's refreshing to see.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I disagree with the use of "Christian Right" in the headline. This isn't really about religion. These positions have been GOP positions for a long time.

Affirmative action itself was racist by definition, because it discriminated solely based on skin color. It needed to go. There are problems with certain minorities making it into higher education, but that can be solved by changing how taxes are distributed to schools, not by letting unqualified people into college programs.

Student loan forgiveness was a joke from the start. If you didn't want to pay back the loans, you shouldn't have taken them. If the issue is the cost of higher education, then we should focus on passing legislation restricting the amount that can be charged for college tuition.

Regarding the cake issue, you can't compel speech, and last I checked, art was considered speech. So, decorating a cake in a specific way is speech that can't be compelled. This isn't 1850. There's more than one baker in town. If you don't like the policies of a particular bakery, go to the next one. The hyperbolic responses about "No Jews allowed" is ridiculous, because that would be religious discrimination, which is a separate issue. Also, it seems a little wild to accuse the Christian Right of not supporting Jews (Israel).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it seems a little wild to accuse the Christian Right of not supporting Jews (Israel).

They “support” them in a way, but not out of any real egalitarian or humanitarian reason. For some, supporting Israel is the same as attacking Islam. For others, they support Israel because they think that will hasten Armageddon. It’s not because they really like Jewish people or Judaism, I suspect a number of the Christian Right really just like that Jewish people have a place away from them to call home.

[–] seafoam_green 1 points 1 year ago

Yes - and certain groups of evangelical Christians behave like weird "Jews for Jesus" cosplayers (they call themselves "messianic jews")

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Have you been residing on a different planet for the last few decades?