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YouTube disallowing adblockers, Reddit charging for API usage, Twitter blocking non-registered users. These events happen almost at the same time. Is this one of the effects of the tech bubble burst?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Money is tighter since the inflation affects VC and stupid money flowing in. Stock prices are not going up, people have no money to play with (see the death of NFTs at the same time, the definition of a stupid investment).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (9 children)

The answer is AI. Amongst other things. Reddit is about to go public and wants everyone on their main app for advertising and tracking. Twitter is dealing with hosting issues with Google.

Plus AI companies are extracting content from Twitter and Reddit to train their AI models like chatGPT which is a huge money maker, and these platforms aren't getting any money from it so they're trying to make it more difficult to get access to it. They want companies like OpenAI and Stability and Microsoft and Google to pay large sums of money for access to their content to train AI on.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just wait till you have to pay per email. You're not still using Gmail are you?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Their cash overlords want returns on their investments.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not anything new and nothing "all of a sudden", unfortunately. Facebook, Tumbler, Google - all done stuff like that before. Even for Reddit this is not the first protest blackout and not the first time they treat users and mods like garbage.

It simply is now happening to the apps and services you (and I) use daily, so it hits closer home.

All modern stairs are built on the same terrible foundation: Attract users, no matter how much money you lose. Once you feel strong, introduce fees, ads, hike the prices and try to regulate years of financial loss.

Happened like clockwork, and companies going public are a clear sign it's just around the corner. (Kind of like any free mobile app will ask you for a 5 star review, just before introducing monetization schemes)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The biggest problem is that average people are used to the tech big companies provide, and lazy so that they won't move to overall better alternatives. This means the companies don't care about consequences of their actions, because there is NONE. Looking at it from the company's perspective, why not make more money from people that won't leave the site anyways?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The tech companies tend to follow the leader on unpopular actions. The first-mover bears the brunt of the backlash, allowing the copycats to implement the same policies without the same flak. Witness Twitter introducing fees and then Facebook following suit. Witness Twitter banning third party apps and Reddit... you know the rest.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well, they saw how so many redditors "protested" then came back to daddy spez with their tales between their legs.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's all of a sudden. They always do this but this time it's all lined up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All VC backed tech companies have been operating on the assumption that they can focus on growth and then make a profit later. That hasn't happened for most of these companies and VCs are starting to demand returns. It was always going to happen, I'm surprised it took this long.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It's all about the money, money

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

You are used to a time where money was essentially free for companies. Whenever they needed money, they could loan money almost for free.

As interest rates are up, that's no longer the case and priorities have changed from growth to plugging holes.

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