And I installed Linux. And it’s awesome.
EDIT: yes, the GPU was a bit tilted. Fixed it now!
this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
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I strongly disagree with the too much RAM hate. I have 32GB and run out. 64GB would be freedom to do whatever. That’s how computing should be.
The correct amount of RAM is enough that you never, ever have to think about it no matter what you choose to do.
Ditto for storage.
32GB is "fine", but yes, I occasionally run into cases where it's not enough. Typically with VMs or CPU-based machine learning tasks that are too big to run on GPU. I'm not really into video editing but I assume that needs a ton as well.
Lol i still have 16gb
My server has 156GB RAM and I don’t think I’ll ever hit 8GB usage hahaha
It’ll boot faster if you take some out.
Noted! I haven’t got it set up yet. I have all the hard drives and stuff, but I haven’t been motivated lately. :c
Plus, once I have UNRAID going, ideally it will almost never need to boot!
I personally would not take it out, "unused" RAM will be used by the OS as e.g. disk cache, or you could have a fairly large ramdisk.
I see! I’m very extremely new to this! Insofar I’ve only got some RPi machines set up, I don’t yet know anything about UNRAID or big servers.
8GB
My server has 8GB of RAM and it rarely even gets up to 4GB of actual RAM usage.
I have no sense of scale yet hahaha. My only server is a 4GB RPI 4 B!
Which server were you talking about when you said your server has 156GB of RAM?
I’ve got a GSA gifted to me by a friend, and he filled it to max with RAM beforehand, and flashed the BIOS with regular… Dell? BIOS?
It’s The Cheat from Homestar that I had to get a buncha SAS drives for. I didn’t know they were a thing.
It’s unfathomably gigantic and heavy, but I guess it has a couple processors and a ton of RAM!
(Also love your handle)
Edit: oh shit it’s also got two PSUs for whatever raisin hahaha
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Curious, what tasks do you use that much RAM for?
Totally overkill. I thought I would be running lots of containers and virtual machines, but really never seem to use more than 16gb total. And I didn’t set up a swap partition, neither.
Thank you, I wondered. I keep thinking I need to upgrade to 32GB from 16 but have get to run into a need other than the prices are pretty cheap these days
If you want to upgrade, get better speeds. AM5 Expo settings are quite stable nowadays, and the less RAM you have, the faster a cold boot is.
IMHO 16gb @ 8000 > 32gb @ 6000. I’m thinking of doing this in the future.
I'm not that sure about 16gb for gaming nowadays. Games are starting to explode in ram and vram usage. With windows on the side and plenty of other apps in the background, I was pretty close to the limit while running a vm with 16gb of memory on a 32gb ram setup, while running warframe (The game was using 5-5.5gb of memory).
Tho running Linux, can reduce that memory usage.
I agree. 16 is enough, but 32 is safe. And 64 is too much!
Does AM5 even support 8000 tho? Thought it topped our at 6000
I'll consider that, thank you!
You don't really need to upgrade. But for a new pc, 32gb is advised for anything gaming.
For other things like content creation or work with the computer other than basic computing, I don't really know. It would change depending on what someone needs to so with the computer.
I haven't run into issues on my gaming rig with 16. If I was building new I'd get 32 for sure. But my old 10700k and 4090 seem to do just fine on 16. Even when running unoptimized emulation like early days with ToTK I hardly used more than 12.
I feel those days are ending soon though and will need more in the next year or so.
And I didn’t set up a swap partition, neither.
You should always use a swap partition for linux, even if you have more than "enough" memory. It just works better for a very very tiny loss of diskspace.
https://haydenjames.io/linux-performance-almost-always-add-swap-space/
it's nice to have in case you want to have bad computer hygiene and hibernate instead of shutting down
Swap space is good to have, but a swap file is more convenient than a swap partition
Even if I disable hibernate and suspend?
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32GB for Windows, 8GB for the software to run all the different RGB, that leaves you with what, 24GB for gaming?
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For the Seconds chrome tab
VMs, containers, and running make -j (yep, that's right, -j without specifying the maximum number of parallel jobs)
I have 64 too and my usage breaks down to basically be 32 for windows, 32 for different VMs.
That's cool, what do you use your VMs for? We have them setup at work too split resources but I can't think of a personal reason to use a virtual machine.
May just be the perspective, but man your GPU looks like it's sagging upwards
Yeah, got that comment before, so I spent some time with a ruler and a screwdriver to make sure.
It seems the case GPU support was a bit too high.
Thanks!
and a fractal torrent compact, good choice!
edit: or wait, is that the regular torrent? I can't tell
Regular one!
The gpu looks tilted, did it not fit in the upper bracket?
I double checked: it’s just the perspective of the photo
EDIT: I just finished reinstalling the card with a ruler in hand because I couldn’t take the thought out of my head lol. Spent 1 hour because I had to clear the CMOS after the cards reinstallation and first cold boot re-training memory, but now it’s technically aligned!
How much was it?
Oh wow, I have the same CPU and GPU setup (different brand on the latter tho).
In any case, you picked great for Linux.
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