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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we ditch god too? The First Nations have a different concept of religion, for one, and atheism is on the rise in Canada anyway.

[–] Thalfon 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have always thought that "Let's keep our land..." would be a more positive and active take than just asking God to take care of it for us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I absolutely love this suggestion. 🙂

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They need to get rid of all the references to god.

Apparently excluding atheists is still socially acceptable though

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

As well as nontheistic/polytheistic religions... it's clearly not inclusive.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not Indigenous, but I can't help but feel that stuff like this and land acknowledgements are such empty gestures.

When it comes to inconsequential things like anthems, politicians will say "I'm open to the changes that Canadians want to see!" but you stop hearing stuff like that as soon as Indigenous people start trying to have their rights respected.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would personally much rather see people on reserves get proper housing and utilities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that would cost money. Cheaper to do this instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True.

And depressing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

100% agree, either give the land back or shut up. Lip service only serves those with white guilt.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We don't sing god save the queen now that she's gone, I see no issue changing O Canada as Christian religion falls to the way side aswell.

Edit: Actually reading the article like a good lemming, I've come to realize there isn't any actual pitches lyrical changes? Must be a slow news day.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's an awkward line as it is.

I feel like this makes it even more awkward.

I mean the word native can mean "someone born in a place". But sure it's often used to mean to reference indigenous people. But are we redefining the word native to be the same as indigenous? Are they interchangeable?

Then there's the whole "Where are you from? No I mean where are you really from?" line of questioning. Is that correct since we should think that it's not the land of anyone that's not indigenous? It's your home but not your land, even you you're born here?

It feels like a weird empty gesture by people that are well meaning, but haven't really considered what the meaning behind what they're saying. Present day sentiment is fleeting, but the words will be there long after social media has moved on to something else.

I could see the possibility that future generations could interpret it to mean something about how immigrants are making homes on land that really belongs to people born in Canada. Feels unwelcoming.

It's just really awkward. Nice sentiment and all, but too awkward.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Let's change the whole thing. Ive never liked the song.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

During this year's NBA All Star game, Jully Black sang the Canadian anthem and she changed a line to "our home ON native land".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's actually the change people are talking about in the article.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We changed it recently already, I don't see why we can't again

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yea, it's not sacred, it's just a song.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, news fatigue is possibly a legitimate not to incrementally change the anthem.

Kinda reminds me of Linus Sebastian's (LTT/LMG/WanShow) take on a video game (Beat Saber) where he said he basically doesn't play this game anymore because every time he boots it up, it requires a small update that breaks compatibility for 3rd party mods.

If you make a small change every year, or 5 or whatever, people are all gonna be on different versions of the anthem, and it's gonna be sort of difficult to get everyone on the same page.

Much better to do an outright overhaul.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm unironically down for going full send and changing the anthem to Stompin' Tom, Out for a Rip, the Log Drivers' Waltz, or anything by Anne Murray.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bobcaygeon is now officially Canada's national anthem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hockey Song!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yawn. Every second he spends thinking about this is a waste, that should be spent thinking about actual problems, of which we have plenty without inventing new ones.

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