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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Man we need ranked ballots.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

It would be the perfect time for the Liberals to change polling method, now that they're about to lose yet still have the NDP's backing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

No. Ranked ballot is literally the worst electoral reform. It doesn't lead to proportional representation. It just favours the most moderate party, since they would be everyone's second choice. We need something like STV or MMPR

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Ranked ballot is literally the worst electoral reform. [...] We need something like STV or MMPR

STV is one of many voting systems based on ranked ballots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

While it would tend towards more moderate, it would also lean towards the side most Canadians prefer naturally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Still better than first-past-the-post.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It just favours the most moderate party

I'm struggling to see the downside here.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't understand how people look at PP and think "there is a reputable dude who relates to the working class" Meanwhile he has never had a real job in his life, is the personification of a wedgie, and has only made clear policy statements about identity politics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I can’t understand how people look at PP

If you’re the average Canadian and your rent has doubled or tripled, groceries have jumped 50%, and your health care system is collapsing in the last 8 years since Trudeau took power isn’t desperately wanting any alternative an obvious reaction? Many districts are effectively a two party race and if your only goal is to ensure Trudeau isn’t PM, the Cons are your only options.

I’m not saying Pollievre will make any meaningful difference, but at the very least he’s been saying our housing system is broken. Trudeau’s had 8 years and things have only become much worse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People should look into the seperation of powers in this country. Rent and health care are provincial responsibilities, grocery bills are moved by market forces and on the rise globally, anyone pinning this on the LPC and thinking conservatives could fix it are in for a nasty surprise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

That's too much to expect from the average Canadian which is why the cons control the majority of the provinces despite royally fucking them up. Canadians don't understand how government works.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

It's mouseland, just like Tommy Douglas said. People are incapable of conceiving of voting for the NDP, even when they know that red and blue will both fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

no please no

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone is missing the key datapoint: "Sample Size: 1300 online"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

1300 is a reasonable sample size but you gotta wonder what pool it's from

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't mind me in the corner with a grin on my face, watching the green party gaining traction πŸ‘‰πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So the (likely high) "undecided" percentage is . . . Oh, wait . . .

Plus, we're not in the run-up to an election right now. There's plenty of time for Polievre to shoot himself in the foot before it starts to matter. Or for Trudeau to do something that garners him a lot of positive press, although that seems less likely.

(To put it another way, this is fearmongering. Vote when the time comes, but don't pay too much attention otherwise.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Voter suppression like with the last Ontario election. News media is in on it. Fuck I wish we had proportional representation. We have a clear majority of parties that represent the majority of Canadians and aren't Conservative fuck wits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I hate our electoral system as much as the next person, but as an Ontarian I can tell you that our low participation was entirely our own doing.

I'm definitely mad that DoFo won a majority with a minority of the votes, but with something like 40% turnout I mainly put the blame at the feet of the apathetic losers who didn't show up. Young people especially, out of my close friend group of 10 people there were 2 of us (including myself) who voted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Voter suppression is why the turnout was so low. For WEEKS prior to the election, all you saw in newspapers, TV, and internet was how dominating DoFo's lead was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

All Polievre has done is shoot himself in the foot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

There's plenty of time for Polievre to shoot himself in the foot

His shoes are de facto crocs already and somehow enough people still think he's able to stand for them.

[–] xmunk 5 points 11 months ago

The CPC would be a really prominent political party if everyone else didn't hate them... but never underestimate the sheer amount of willpower the LPC puts behind overtaking the CPC in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looking at the news out of India, I wonder if some of that affected Trudeau with Indians eligible to vote in Canada.

Looks like the media and people there are really running with it, even if it’s not a good look for their government

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Indians eligible to vote in Canada.

Those are called Canadians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Pierre is so dominant now. People are looking for a quick fix most likely.