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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Google is coming under scrutiny after people discovered transcripts of conversations with its AI chatbot are being indexed in search results.

You can replicate what others are seeing by typing ‘site:bard.google.com/share‘ into the Google Search bar.

I tried this out for myself, and as one example found a writer brainstorming story ideas and using her full name. It seems that when you hit "export/share" on Bard, while you might think only people with access to the link that's created can view the conversation, in fact Google makes the conversation public and searchable. This is far more problematic than the vague privacy threat of your prompts being used to train the models and later being spit back to some random person in a reply. This lets you read full conversations. AI in general has a privacy problem, but this is a good reason not to use Bard in particular (if it sucking wasn't enough reason for you)

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (7 children)

DuckDuckGo is, in my opinion after a lot of use, an inferior search engine to Google overall but thank god it doesn't force AI bullshit on me.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago

I've found DDG and Google have become of fairly equal quality lately, although I think it's mainly due to Google getting worse rather than DDG getting significantly better

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

I honestly don't think it's inferior, but it does deliver different results and does so in a different manner.

Google is far superior for shopping however.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That was my experience a few years ago. I would find myself first searching in DDG then using the g! or SP! search bangs to use Google or startpage. However, I have not needed that in at least a year or two. DDG now pretty much meets all my search needs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What DDG doesn't seem to do well is search a term which includes an exact match phrase. What I mean is this.

If I search in DDG for 'eyepatchcheetah "That was my experience a few years ago."' it will give me a bunch of unrelated results with all of those words but not necessarily in that order, but if I put that into Google, this thread would be more likely to be at the top. This is a way I search for things quite often, so it's kind of annoying to have to go back to Google to do those sorts of searches.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same. It completely ignores exact phrase match so you can't drill down with the most important aspects of a query. Ecosia was the same way IIRC, so it might be related to people using Bing data as a 3rd party perhaps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's such a stupid thing to not work. If you're looking for a specific webpage or even an error code or something it's just impossible now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The fact that you can use bangs in DDG is so powerful that I don't understand why not more people use it as their main search engine. The few times when it's not good enough just add the !g after your search (it doesn't even need to be before) and get redirected to Google.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I'm keeping my eye on Kagi. About to start a trial. If it's good, I think it'd be refreshing to pay for it.

[–] SimplePhysics 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If DDG doesn’t work, try !g to automatically send you to Google with the same query. Its handy for situations where DDG can’t find something.

There’s also !yt by the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use !wt (Wiktionary) and !gi (Google Images) surprisingly often.

[–] SimplePhysics 2 points 11 months ago

Knew there would be more! Thanks for telling me!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I really tried my best with DDG, but I absolutely hated it. I’m back on Google search until I can find something better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Self host SearxNG or find a cheap provider for it and never look back

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Give kagi a shot, it's paid service, but they have a 100 search trial

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Use search engines based in EU.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Your late night drunken/stoned conversations with LLMs are being put out there for everyone to see.