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As a woman, maybe more men should identify as women on Lemmy to make targeted misogyny both less accurate and more diluted?
I've seen it and call it out, or in, or whichever direction it would be since I'm a cishet guy (I can only guess the people I'm speaking to are also men). But that's a bandaid. I'm interested to see any ideas on how to fix it at its source.
why do you assume that other posters are male?
In this context it's because they say things like "females suck and won't date me". I can't be 100% sure, but it's an ok guess to make.
sheesh. incels gonna incel ig.
Yeah. At least they're open about it. Silver lining I guess
I think women should roll with the punches online and not shy away from shitting back on people who shit on you. Of course, take commonsense precautions like not DDOSing yourself, but give em back as good as it gets.
Did you mean doxxing?
On the surface, of course, this sounds completely fair, while at the same time, insisting that these women have to not be themselves and instead must do extra things just to get respect isn't fair at all.
You shouldn't have to be willing to be baited into a fight to be respected.
I'll take a go at it. I am a woman. Don't automatically assume whoever you are responding to is male. Also, if we are specifically talking about women, then let's not forget that cis women, specifically, exist and don't have to do all the heavy lifting for every other non-cishet-male. Sometimes on R****t I felt that cis women were stifled in that regard. I will be very, very curious to see how this comment gets voted on and engaged with...
what do you mean cis women exist and dont have to do heavy lifting for other non cishet male and how does that apply to making Lemmy a safer and more inclusive place for women?
Regarding erasure, in an effort to make language more inclusive, women's identity is often erased. "Pregnant people" removes women (the vast majority of people who are pregnant are cis women). Other language like that. So use language that actually does acknowledge women and doesn't contribute to their erasure. "Pregnant women and people" perhaps, for example. When all you are usually dealing with is text on a screen, language matters.
Re: the other point, it's less Lemmy-specific. Cis men need to step up and do the work for inclusion as well. It seems there is a default expectation that of course women should be leading the charge since they're already a "minority" group. It's tiring.
ah youre a terf. i dont care about your opinion then.
Not sure exactly where you are coming from with that. The main post was about women specifically, is pretty normal to see responses that are "non-trans pregnant woman" specific considering that (as far as I'm aware) we don't have the technology to impregnate trans women yet.
And since the main post is about women, we can also assume we aren't talking about pregnant trans men.
I know it's fun to point your finger and "Gotcha!" But you are going to have to give us some pretty specific examples why if you want us to believe she's a terf.
Not sure how advocating for cis women makes me a terf. I don't exclude trans people, I simply want feminism to work for cis women as well.
Did you get this talking point from Ana Kasparian? She recently made arguments like this, but they were a lot less reasonable. "Pregnant women and people" sounds like an easy compromise to me.
I did not, I don't know who that person is actually. Thank you for thinking that it is a reasonable compromise.