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Copying this from another comment /edit: all of these updates are coming to the base game

TL;DR: This is not a DLC. This is Cyberpunk 2.0.

•	virtually every system of the main game has been changed and/or updated
•	police system is completely reworked with multiple tiers of NCPD/mercs chasing you down in vehicles according to your wanted level, apparently on level 5 maxtac will chase you down and it will be some sort of bossfight against them (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riK1i8lQwRM&t=511s)
•	perks and skills have been completely overhauled, no longer simple passive stat boosts, much more active abilities like different melee finishers, a dash, or the ability to deflect bullets with melee weapons
•	the difficulty curve is reworked/rebalanced
•	the loot tiers are reworked
•	archetypes of enemies have been redone for more variety in combat encounters
•	an entirely new 6th skill tree that uses a different type of skill points (relic points) that will be used to add new abilities to your cyberware
•	installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game)
•	installing cyberware now has a first person cutscene added to it, just like in the prologue at Vik’s clinic
•	you can now “attune” cyberware to one of your attributes, making it more efficient if you have invested in that attribute; example here optical camo is attuned to the “cool” attribute: https://i.imgur.com/1UI9SEX.png
•	armor is no longer tied to clothing, it instead tied to your cybernetics
•	vehicle combat is added to the game, you can even use your katana on your bike
•	vehicles are no longer bought from fixers, but bought through a website set up by mama welles
•	some vehicles have guns installed on them (machine guns, rocket launchers)
•	new type of infinitely replayable/repeatable missions are being added where you need to steal certain vehicles marked on your map
•	new activity introduced “airdrops”, loot caches that drop randomly on the map that you can fight over and retrieve for yourself
•	tons of new random events/activities are added to make the world feel more alive, like car chases and gang fights
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have not played the 1st one, is it something I should pick up and play in order to understand this second one??

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

For me that game is Tears of the Kingdom. It has a lot of really good ideas and even execution but there are so many aspects of the game that make me wish to never return to it again. The battery power being held behind a grind, the time limit on some the things you can build (wings for example), the repetitive caves scattered all across the map, the repetitive grind of clearing all the shrines and all the light bulbs under ground. And worst of all the the intense babying of the player as if they have no awareness. I remember doing the wind temple and walking into a room with only a single thing in it and Tulin still paused the game to point out the only object in the entire room. That's just one example, every major dungeon and shrine will eventually pause gameplay to show / explain something to the player that is already clearly conveyed by the level design. I know if I press the button in the shrine that a door will open, but the game still pauses the game to show me the door opening, even if I am 1 foot away from the door when it opens.

The shrines in general are extremely disappointing to me, just as the BOTW ones were. They rarely make you think of a solution, instead making the solution appear incredibly obvious the moment you enter the shrine. There are combat tutorial shrines that you may miss and come back to 20 hours into your playthrough only to get stuck in an unskippable tutorial on how to block or something.

Another thing that really rubbed me the wrong way was the re-use of the Hyrule map just with changes to it. I think they should've focused on the Sky Islands for the majority of the gameplay, you couldn't imagine my disappointment when 30 minutes into the game I jumped down to Hyrule and slowly realized I was going to spend most of my time in Hyrule (again) instead of the Sky. The underground area is really cool conceptually but I find myself just flying around on machines with lights attached to them because it feels so EMPTY. And the loot often isn't enticing enough to go explore the hundreds of rock-blocked tunnels in the game.

And the enemies are so incredibly easy, most of the time landing a single hit will stun the enemy, then you can just mash till you knock them on the ground, and if they're still alive you can shoot an arrow into them or run up and attack more. The combat isn't very deep, the flurry rush mechanic's timing seems inconsistent, and sometimes seems to not work at all. It's overall a good game, don't get me wrong, but IMO it's not the flawless masterpiece a lot of people are making it seem like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wrong thread buddy.

[–] Proofofnothing 3 points 1 year ago

Regardless of how this reply showed up in a cyberpunk post, it is very refreshing to see someone with the same sentiments i have aboht botw and totk. Totk especially seems to be getting such excessive praise and people are completely overlooking the many flaws. Anyway thanks for sharing your views. I am with you.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been itching to play the base since release, despite the bugs.

I might finally bite the bullet get a rig that can play it. I may even convince myself to get the Steam Deck for it! Does the base game currently run smoothly on the Deck?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Very excited about any updates they can give to cyberpunk... despite the rocky launch, I really loved the game and wish people didn't glance over it so much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Can anyone explain to me, a dumbass, what it means for my current save file? I haven't beaten the main quest yet because I've been doing everything else for over 120 hours (finally got all the gigs and NCPD scanners, at least), but I still don't see how an overhaul of that caliber is going to play well with the current balance of things. Judging by that one update that reset my skill and perk points, I think we can expect some resets again.

I think Phantom Liberty is my incentive to finally finish the game and then start a completely new playthrough, preferably with a consistent build and playstyle this time from start to finish. So much to choose from!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NGL, I just pre-ordered after reading this. I know folks HATE pre-ordering literally because of the first release of CP2077, but I loved that game so much and always felt like the internet just had a disproportionate tantrum over it.

This isn't to say that we shouldn't have been disappointed at all. I certainly wish that they didn't hype so hard, but I think of all the games to over-promise and under-deliver, Cyberpunk and the projektRED team didn't deserve poster child status.

Also, god damn Keanu as Johnny Silverhand fulfilled all of my Cyberpunk2020 dreams from my nerdy-ass childhood, and I don't want this IP to die. So I'll buy the game and expansion for PC. I know that I'll get it anyway, even if it has bad reviews, because I did the first time and didn't regret it for a second.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much of this is a free update to the base game vs locked behind yet another payment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything but the expansion area/story.

[–] Ardiente 2 points 1 year ago

Holy shit if this is true I probably buy the expansion based on that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am quite excited. Gonna wait for it to drop and then for a few patches, but I really LOVE the original game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I bought it on sale at Steam a while ago when I got my Steam Deck, but didn't play much and when I picked it up again it had glitched and replaced my save with something completely different. I'm happy they are updating it and making it into the game that was promised...maybe I'll give it another chance on decent hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely enough new interesting stuff for me to replay the game probably. I will have to let my buddy know as he is absolutely ready for the dlc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In case anyone else is looking, it comes out in September. I am a bit excited about this, but I have not been gaming on desktop too much lately. I may have to make an exception.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm afraid to be optimistic but holy shit this sounds good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nice but the new spec req make me unable to play the game now :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome, I look forward to my second playthough!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't wait to play this game for the first time when this expansion goes live. I've been a patient gamer and haven't even bought the game yet. Glad to see it will probably pay off especially since people seem to be happy with the game as is. There's going to be SO much to play this fall.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hope the game will be playable after this. I loved it when it first came out back in the day, also with all the bugs and glitches. I've been waiting for more than a year to re-play it after a consistent update, maybe this is the time!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds interesting. I've held off playing it waiting for at least a 75% or under $20 discount.

[–] Effingeffit 2 points 1 year ago

It's funny, I have been waiting as well, and just bought it last night for 50% off. I think I'll wait for this update to actually start playing it, though

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