From what I've heard Last Epoch is a good game, but you're not really doing it any favors by saying "made by redditors".
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2023
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I always marvel at how Grim Dawn isn't in the conversation. It's easily top tier, has no microtransactions, is single player offline, but also supports co-op multiplayer. It features a full cosmetic system that is entirely in-game with no cash shop nonsense. There are so many skills and builds with an outstanding itemization system. Robust crafting system. Repeatable end game challenge content.
Also, it is just recieving another huge free patch, and another full expansion has just been announced.
It took me forever to actually try it, I thought it was going to be janky indie stuff etc. I'm closing on 3000 hours and still dropping back in with new build themes and ideas. I paid $35 for that 3000 hours in a Steam sale.
But yea, Last Epoch is ok I guess.
Edit: a word
Edit 2: just to add since I saw a comment about multiplayer, there is a community run seasonal ladder League as well. Grim League, for those interested.
I played all current dlcs and the base game on separate occasions alone and with my friends and the game never really clicks for me. I don't know what it is but it never got as fun as many other arpgs for me. Doubt that I will look at this new expansion as it feels I could have more fun spending my time with another game instead. Kind of weird as I have over a hundred hours and like the game genre but... Yeah.
Yeah so many people have missed out on Grim Dawn. It's a bit sad it doesn't have multiplayer but in the grand scale of things its what a lot of people wanted with D4. Let me play Singleplayer offline! This game does it. And boy does it do it well.
It’s a bit sad it doesn’t have multiplayer
What do you mean? Grim Dawn does have multiplayer.
Only almost.
O. It's has full fleged multi-player
How do you go about the multiplayer part? Any private servers or how does it work?
You select multi-player and join a game or you can host a game. It's the same multi-player format as Divinity Original Sin.
Uhm. Now I feel dumb :) Last I played you had to enter an ip adress for the game you wanted to join?
Yes. That is the Lan option only though.
Multi-player let's you join open games or host your own game.
There is a little circle that you can select to change which you want to do before hitting multi-player.
Mind. Blown.
It's just old. People talked about it back when it came out. POE I think gets recognized because it's free to play (with DLC/MTX). I've played every ARPG under the sun and Last Epoch is one of the best I've ever played. It feels like the real successor to Diablo II
The biggest difference is that PoE gets huge expansions every 3-4 months with new content while Grim Dawn only mostly gets numeric patches. Yeah there's a new expansion on the horizon, but it's been a good while...
$35 Early Access with unfinished story but polished cash shop really shows you where the devs priorities are.
It's also lacking. I come back every few updates but the game isn't very good. It's no Torchlight 2 or Grim Dawn.
Give it a try on the high seas. I did and I ended up buying it because it really is that good. I never interacted with a cash shop in my entire time playing
... On the story. Their priority is the story. The cash shop is quite recent and the time it takes to develop isn't even in the same universe as story content. Story content requires developing new zones, new enemy types, voice acting... They spent tons of time developing multiplayer, that's a huge undertaking by itself where they are improving constantly. They just reworked some quests and remade the tylesets of some campaign zones. Developing the cash shop can't have been more than 5% of the time they spent developing last year.
Either you don't know about development in general, you are blinded by rage with the drama they had with the release of the cash shop (which they reworked) or you are being malicious. I'm guessing 1 or 2.
I’ve seen early access games that go their entire dev cycle without adding real-cash shops. this pervasive idea that microtransactions are just an acceptable thing in any new game has me absolutely incredulated.
it doesn’t matter how long it takes to develop, putting a cash shop in an unfinished game is a bad move optics wise.
it doesn’t matter how long it takes to develop, putting a cash shop in an unfinished game is a bad move optics wise.
Sure, but the game already has content enough to be a good single player experience for 35€ so w/e.
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