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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Wait a minute - GPT-4 - is that you asking this question?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Show a picture, video, audio clip or text designed to elicit an emotion. Ask how the user feels.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How would you discriminate answers?

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[โ€“] Angry_Maple 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is a bit out there, so bear with me.

In the past, people discovered that if they applied face paint in a specific way, cameras could no longer recognizing their face as a face. Now with this information, you get (eg. 4?) different people. You take a clean picture of each of their heads from a close proximity.

Then, you apply makeup to each of them, using the same method that messes with facial recognition software. Next, take a picture of each of their heads from a little further away.

Fill a captcha with pictures of the faces with the makeup. Give the end user a clean-faced picture, and then ask them to match it to the correct image of the same person's face but with the special makeup.

Mess around with the colours and shadow intensity of the images to make everyone's picture match more closely with everyone else's picture if you want to add some extra chaos to it. This last bit will keep everyone out if you go too far with it.

[โ€“] Angry_Maple 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have also encountered some different styles over the years.

A good one that I saw involved three shapes. You had a triangle, a sphere, and a cube. There were three patterns. Striped, polka-dotted, and plain. The shapes also had textures. Some shapes were smooth, others had fur. There were 3 backgrounds. I think one was brick, one was flowy colours, but I forget what the third background was.

Anyways, out of those options, you were generated a random combination of two shapes, 2 colours, a texture, and one background. The captcha generated it's own 3 randomized images, but the fourth image matched your generated image. The placement of the fourth image was also randomized.

I have to be honest, I was tipsy when I used it and it kept me out for longer than I'd like to admit haha.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This would just generate data to train AIs on.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

LLMs, IIRC, are really bad at IQ-test type questions that require abstract reasoning, especially if they require multiple steps. So, something like

The box is yellow and red.
If the box is yellow, it is good.
If the box is blue, it is unhappy.
If the box is good and happy, the box is awesome.
If the box is red, it is happy.
Is the box awesome?

is what I'd use.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Um wtf, I'm starting to doubt if I'm a human. ๐Ÿค”

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Say to it

This statement is false

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Any bot? That's just impossible. We're going to have to tie identity back to meatspace somehow eventually.

An existing bot? I don't think I can improve on existing captchas, really. I imagine an LLM will eventually tip their hand, too, like giving an "as an AI" answer or just knowing way too much stuff.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Captcha or recaptcha is good enough imo, no point in reinventing the wheel. Alternatively, split instructions in an email and on the website. For ex: Send email with What is the square of 3 (sent as an image for every word) And on the website Email + 25 = xxxxx

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'd ask for their cell number and send a verification code. That'll stop 95% of all duplicate accounts. Keep the hash of their phone number in a hash list, rather than the number itself. Don't allow signups from outside whatever region you can SMS for free.

I realize this would mean relying on an external protocol (SMS), but it might just keep the crap out. Would help for ban evasion too, at least within an instance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Until someone uses a bunch of Google Voice numbers and gets each of them banned before someone a few months later happens to get one of the banned numbers and tries to sign up.

Only bringing it up because a similar thing happened to me; I got a Google Voice number and found out it was already related to a spam account on a site I wanted to use. Their support team understood and it had been like 6 months so they undid it but still. Bit of a pain.

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