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Since there’s no official thread I’m going to write my thoughts in this post as I watch the episode.

The animated stuff has never really grabbed me. All this Ezra stuff is like, “oh ok yeah uh huh he’s super important I get it.”

“Can I count on you?” - foreshadowing?

I like this sith dude, but I feel like he’s going to turn to the light.

Rebellion insignia on Sabine’s mando armour 🤔

Jedi bot nooooo!

Oh good they saved him. I like this droid. What’s his name?

Oh, it’s the 25 year old general again. I don’t mind her character, but she doesn’t seem grizzled enough to be a general.

How come her kid doesn’t have head tendrils?

Oh it’s Mr. Kim! I always like seeing him show up.

Ooooo baddies being bad. Trippy map stuff is fun.

Uh oh showdown time.

Cool fight. She should have just stabbed spinny-lightsabre guy in the knuckles though. Guess we’ll never know who that guy was. Did we know Sabine had a light sabre or is this a new development?

Oh no they’re splitting up! Mr. Droid said not to do that!

Can’t they make a copy of this map? Why are they fighting over this one map? Any good data hoarder would have backed it up by now.

Oh shit they’re going to talk about Anakin now!

Yeah get bent pal, she doesn’t have to explain herself to you.

Yeah don’t start wars, bro. Or do, I guess that’s why I’m watching Star Wars

Oh lightsaber time again already??

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw, I feel honoured that my little threads are called “official”! Thank you! 😀

Honestly, Wednesday was a very busy day for me, so didn't get to watch it until yesterday evening. Thanks for opening the discussion up. My thoughts for the week.


Overall feeling I felt this episode was an improvement over last week's, but to be honest, given my somewhat scathing thoughts about that one, that wasn't difficult. There was actually something happening in this one. I'm still feeling conflicted about the overall tone of the show. Ahsoka hasn't really shown her fun side yet. It's all very dour and stilted still.

What show am I watching? Are we a Rebels Reunion show or an Ahsoka show? I would love the series to commit to one or the other. We have Hera, Jacen, Sabine, Ahsoka. But, we nearly got them together this episode, for them to be pulled apart yet again. And if we're going to bring the gang back together, where's my buddy Zeb? I refuse to believe he's just hanging around in that bar Mando met him whilst all this stuff is going down. It would've felt very natural to bring him into the fold as Hera flew off to go and help her friends.

“Anakin spoke highly of you.” “Funny, he never mentioned you.” This show needs to stop already with the “this person is a mystery reveal”. Who is this evil Sith? How did he know Anakin? Where did he suddenly come from in an era where Luke and Leia were the last hope? Filoni stretched the lore to its limits by sending Ezra to another universe and making Ahsoka a not-Jedi-Jedi to stay faithful to Obi-Wan & Yoda's conversations. Also, just, enough with the whole “mystery reveal”.

Those plot points have been done to death. In this episode, quite literally because, did Ahsoka just kill Mystery Helmet Guy? And he just… turned to dust? If he was being sustained to such a degree by the Dark Side, then, erm, hello? If this is indeed the end for that baddie, then, that's disappointing. I have faith in Dave Filoni, but we're halfway into the season and I feel like we're still busy getting started.

We're finally going places Took half the season, but it seems like we're travelling. Disappointed that Thrawn still hasn't appeared though, when the trailer first launched I thought we were in for an exciting season. It may still turn exciting, but can't escape the feeling we've wasted a lot of time to get there.

Anakin? I would love for Ahsoka to have a proper character moment with Anakin, aka the child-murderer. Which, erm, not sure how we're going to gloss over that one. But this very mystical World Between Worlds seems to be letting all sorts of people in lately. Maybe some Loth Wolves installed a revolving door somewhere?

We'll see where this goes, though. It's probably the way for Ahsoka to make it to the other universe.

Agency I think my main problem with the show so far, similar to the Kenobi one before it, is that a lot of stuff happens to Ahsoka. She doesn't take control of the situation or carve out her plans. She's responding to people, attacks, schemes, but her plan so far hasn't gone beyond “Let's go fly there and have a look.”

It feels very inconsistent with her character from before.

Also. Sabine handing over the map just like that? Cartoon-Sabine would've kicked her ass over that. No WAY, would she go against Ezra's sacrifice in that manner? Ezra did everything to get rid of Thrawn and helped end the war. Sabine, with her strong moral compass and iron will, would suddenly go, “Oh yeah, screw it, I miss Ezra so let's help out these baddies get Thrawn back.”

Unless this was part of the plan she made with Ahsoka all along….

….would've been great if there had been even a HINT of that, though, if it were the case.

6 / 10 for me.

Which, is painful. I love these characters, but they all seem to be wandering around looking for the plot. I hope they find it soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah yeah I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. I’d give it a seven though.

I’m not too concerned about there being a place where dead Jedi can talk to the living. Kind of a stretch, but sure.

Same with the random new Sith people.

Feloni is once again trying to fit in between two time periods so I’ll cut him some slack, especially with how poorly handled the sequel trilogy was. I just hope they eventually let him work without the baggage of trying to fix sloppy movies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a very good point, that Filoni is trying to redeem the sequel movies, but I feel that may be a very challenging thing to pull off. Where the prequels were clunky and clumsy movies, they did have a solid overarching plot with clear themes throughout. The sequel movies, unfortunately, have very little overarching themes or plot.

With the New Republic shown to be an ineffective government regarding the response to a possible threat, and the imperial remnants operating within society, in episode 3 and Mando, that thread is becoming clearer as we lead into The Force Awakens. The rise of the First Order may be the most solid attempt at redemption. Other than that? The sequels are just too much of a mess at this stage to connect with, thank you Disney.

A Filoni-led Old Republic era? That may well give him the freedom to let loose.

Regarding dead people speaking, I think I would’ve preferred Force Ghost Anakin instead. We already know he’s out there somewhere, from Return of the Jedi.

Let’s see what this week’s episode will bring, I suppose!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t think he’s trying to redeem the sequels, but just make them make sense. There’s a 30 year gap to fill. I think it can be done.

They’re obviously leading up to the cloning of Palpatine in Mando and now Ahsoka is joining Mando in showing how the New Republic botched it so hard that the Empire came back.

He’s also using popular parts of the Legend canon to do it, which will hopefully calm down some of the rabid EU-fans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess Marrok isn't really Marek after all? If Marrok really is dead, that was very anti-climactic.

how long until Hera's son is kidnapped/taken prisoner to be a new dark Jedi apprentice? it seems like that is the only purpose for him to be on this trip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn’t even know that guy’s name. Not every death has to be spectacular, I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah that’s a good point. He’s kind of a useless little turd. And where the frick are his tendrils??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw I bunged up the app. Ok continuing here…

Haha ain’t no rock gonna stop Ahsoka!

Simultaneous Master vs Master and Apprentice vs Apprentice fights. Nice.

Oh damn buddy you just got your ass kicked!

Ouch that’s a hot map!

Oh he ain’t done yet!

Oh man she just chucked that chick against a rock!

She fell. Enh she’ll be back. The show is named after her after all. She probably landed on a millennium falcon or something.

Oh, buddy’s playing with her emotions. Don’t fall for it Sabine! It’s a classic sith trick!

Greater good?? Dude, you serve the literal embodiment of evil in this universe.

No, it’s not the only way. Kill him!

Awwwww why?? You told Ahsoka she could count on you!

Space fight time!

Of course now he destroys the map. Sabine you idiot.

Cool. Classic X-Wing pilot shots.

Holy shit they just smashed through all those ships! No space fight I guess. Just a space demolition. That poor rhodian.

The kid almost said the line! (Where are his tendrils??)

Where the hell is she? In the map? Did she cross in to the Halo universe? Looks like a light bridge.

Oh shiiiiit it’s Anakin!

Is she dead?

Nah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, finally looks like the show is picking up! I loved this episode. Pacing was better, and it's starting to enter "I have no idea what's going to happen next" territory.

Where the hell is she? In the map? Did she cross in to the Halo universe? Looks like a light bridge.

It's the "World Between Worlds". We've seen it once before, on Rebels. It's a bridge between space and time. Ezra, Ahsoka, and Palpatine are the only ones who have seen it (that we know of).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ahhh ok.

Overall I enjoyed it very much! The show’s got its issues, but it’s like… have you seen Star Wars?