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The study of morality for self-driving cars, using the trolly problem. (article from 24.10.2018) (www.technologyreview.com)

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Paperclip maximizer would suggest the ai will purposely kill undesirables to “save” others because no option to avoid harm in the situation was presented in the training data.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Shifting society to relying on public transport, micromobility and not cars +speed limits on autonomous vehicles (on vehicles driven by humans too) should almost fully resolve the issue IMO. Although in some edge cases ~~accidents~~ crashes will still happen and we could argue about that then but it's a part of a bigger problem. It's not a problem of self-driving cars but cars in general, we just normalised killing people by using cars and say "whoopsie! UwU" when that happens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If/after we make such shift i absolutely believe this is true, but just like with every new technology there needs to be a transitional from old to new. Automated cars mixing with manual cars in present day like streets seems inevitable. Personally though, fuck cars and redesign streets as forests walkways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But we have resources to make public transit for all today and delaying this is stupid because we lose a lot of lives from cars and they are very NOT enviromentally friendly too. I know it's not related to the issue of the post but I felt that people making a fuss about that while ignoring all the deaths caused by humans so far is dumb. Not saying that it's not an issue, it absolutely is but it's not nearly anywhere near to being as big of a problem as current problems with cars.

Edit: I miessed the last part of the comment lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, its pretty much proven than automated transport will be leaps safer then human operated vehicles. A big hurdle are our moral cultures that since the distant parts have always dealt with loss by pointing towards someone or something to blame and assessing what should have happened and who should compensate who. Till we solved this problem it matters less that we can technically build it but that we simply dont want to yet.

Similarly we technically have the food production to end world hunger, and have enough homes to end homelessness, but because of primitive social fears collective society just doesn’t want to commit to fixing these problems.

My hope is on Social (online) education powered by AI but il have to wait and see if we can even create that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Can you add date to the title? Thank you. Copy this:

(article from 24.10.2018)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as we are having to share space with cars maybe more effort could be done to try and make crossing intersection put pedestrians in less danger by having ramps they can put them above the cars as opposed to hoping car doesn't run them over?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A ramp isnt very wheelchair/elderly or even bicycle friendly. Here when they redo roundabouts we use a mix of above ground and sloped tunnels. to split cars, bikes and pedestrians. Sometimes with no lights. But its quite expensive, and to my personal opinion feels motivated by financial opportunities for possibly car aligned politics.

I’d prefer Ai infrastructure in big cities and slowly build towards cars that still work manual but can connect to the compatible grids. In the mean time streamline acces to big car parking centers. Into commercial and industrial districts. Simply investing in public transport instead of cutting budget will further help to lower traffic in walked city streets from which we can really make those streets really citizen centric and full of green.

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