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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/72043

2/4/2021 Update: In light of chucklefuck TERF shit with Giggle, I am once again demanding the rest of you liberals educate yourselves on trans issues with Trans Liberation as a starting point. And you better believe more literature on minority struggle is in the pipelines. We're doing some reading this month, libs. Get ready.


AUDIOBOOKS HAVE BEEN RECORDED FOR ALL 8 CHAPTERS. YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR LIBERALISM.

https://hexbear.net/post/48476

Follow that link and you'll find a free download of the book in pdf and comrade @EugeneDebs's epub, comrade @futomes' audiobooks for all eight chapters, and notes and discussions from the book (and don't you dare just read the fucking notes you god damn liberals, read the fucking book or listen to the audiobook).

I spent an entire weekend night scanning the whole damn book so y'all could educate yourselves on the fucking struggles we've been screaming about for the past six months and hardly any of you damn cissie libs participated. Had you participated you'd probably have a better understanding of the struggles we face and we probably wouldn't be in this situation where trans people are heading for this damn hills because you're all shit libs driving us away.

Fucking read it or listen to the audiobooks and I won't ask again. It's all free. The book is only 147 pages - that's 7 pages per night for exactly 3 weeks. I wipe my fucking ass with 7 pages, that's nothing. People put genuine effort into this to ensure you could educate yourselves and you have no reason not to outside of fucking liberalism.

It reads quick. Drop whatever the fuck you're reading and read this. Now. :leslie-shining:

~~Edit: I'll be throwing up a discussion thread at some point in the next week or so for you damn shitlibs to comment on with things you find meaningful so I'll know if you actually gave a shit. I swear to God I better see y'all in the comments.~~

If you're having trouble downloading, there are links in this comment by u/hexaflexagonbear that seem to work.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

Honestly this should go in c/bestofhexbear for posterity

But more importantly read Feinbergleslie-shining

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Finally time for me to redeem myself and read this

wild to think that I thought I was cis when the drama and the pronouns struggle session first dropped and now several years later I'm wearing skirts and shit vivian-shrug

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

sicko-fem communism is a pathway to many abilities some transphobes consider to be... unnatural.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wild to think that I thought I was cis when the drama and the pronouns struggle session first dropped and now several years later I'm wearing skirts and shit

Same, lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I remember we had a demographics survey a long time ago and were already pretty trans; I wonder what the numbers are now. I think there's a lot of us who have changed a little sense then, lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What was that struggle session? I was still cis tho while I was on Reddit Chapo, but I took a break because Hexbear pre federation was different. Still

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We had a load of reactionary patsoc types and their adjacents who used to use / raid the site and they were really, really upset about mandatory pronouns and being told not to be transphobic

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Goddamn yeah and that was years before patsoc and MAGA communist were terms people used. We used to call them stupidpolers

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's that meme with "you're really going to die for trans people?" "Someone is..."

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

rat-salute

I think I did not long after the comm opened, but happy to post it again!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

has this been posted to /c/traa yet thinkin-lenin

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

If you don't stand up for trans rights, your pronouns are about to be were/was.

meow-knife-trans

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I’m a Marxist-Leninist-TransComrade69ist

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

more and more people are saying it trump-anguish

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Mandatory reading

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Beginning my reread and I just want to note that Feinberg goes out of hir way to detail how trans liberation is liberatory for everyone, not just trans people, and does so without centering cis people as that line of thought so often does. I think that’s a big part of the book’s accessibility, is that it targets a wholistic view of sex and gender.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope this gets some visibility on the federated instances. there's a lot of people over there that could do with reading this.

if you're visiting from another instance: read this book. it's short and it will change your perspective on queer politics. there's no liberation for any of us without liberation for us all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Posting for vis. imdoingmypart.jpg

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

are there any trigger warnings I should know about? stone butch blues got intense and I never finished. I will read it I just gotta be in the right headspace for certain topics.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Beyond pink or blue is not a novel it's more of like a theoretical exploration and journey of what transness means.

I can't remember ATM but most likely mentioning some violence perpetrated towards trans people, but not narratively.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

alright that sounds good to me!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would it be helpful for me to reread it and tag each chapter with some potentially relevant content warnings?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that is sooooo sweet, but it seems like such a big ask! I think ill be ok since it sounds more like dry theory rather than a heart wrenching novel. youre a gem comrade!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While I do agree with faer, there are a couple of CWs. It is about history of marginalized after all, so from what I remember there is some police brutality, some societal repression, some mentions of violence, some terms like deviant and worse are used, some words have outdated meanings (today other phrases would be used, but those were often only developed afterwards).

https://hexbear.net/comment/3878643 seems to be happy to give specific ones. The main frame is that of speeches given by Leslie. Over all what did affect me personally was more the acquainting myself with what is described and contrasting or complementing it with my lived experiences.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Good shit then... good shit now.

feinberg-sicko

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Shout out to the user who recorded the audiobook. Did a pretty good job.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The shattering of hard lines is the foundation of a better future. In all places, in all forms.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

The Hexbear bible

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Being bullied into reading this book by TC69 is one of the most important things that has ever happened in both my personal and political development.

Losing hir still hits hard. I could have learned so much more. trans-heart

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Uphold TC69 Thought forever.

That post made me engage with Feinberg and that book, and I actually read it and posted a little comment/review of it later as TC69 had asked. I was cis but already opening up and questioning a little back then, but that book genuinely helped me a lot, and look at me now.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I'll find some time to read it. I mean, that's what normies do, right?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

TC69 thought should be taught in elementary school

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Fair enough I'll listen to it at work

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting, I have been looking for something like this as a resource to educate myself on the subject.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It’s not the be-all-end-all, but Feinberg is an engaging writer and it covers a ton of ground very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Also read Transgender Warriors

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This book rules, got me reading a lot of other queer theory. People should read it even if you're not trans.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

People should read it especially if they're not trans meow-knife-trans

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Great post, I'm way overdue for reading this. Also sharing the file with all my friends is praxis.