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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone commenting seems to be missing your point. Regardless how people feel about pets and fireworks, people should be aware that the 4th of July revelry can be extremely difficult for some veterans suffering from PTSD. There's one I know personally who was in combat in Iraq and saw really terrible things. You can tell talking to him it deeply effects him to this day. I think of it a lot when I hear illegal fireworks. At least with the official fireworks shows they know when to expect it. The illegal fireworks are just random out of the blue and could easily trigger a PTSD episode. Maybe the guy in the screenshot talking about patriotism should consider that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Plenty of legal fireworks can do this too.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Pets and PTSD aside, I just get sick of hearing the goddamned things go off every 5 minutes until 3 am every fucking day from June thru August.

Be a good fucking neighbor for fuck's fucking sake. Put on a good show on the 4th, clap for the boom booms, and then stop. Some people have jobs and need sleep. Otherwise we might get cranky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is how we do it. One big night, see you back in a year.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (29 children)

As a Veteran who has PTSD and does not do well on 4th of July. I fought for people's freedom. Let them enjoy their fireworks and I'll stay on my farm fat away taking care of my turkeys who also hate fireworks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not everyone can do that. A form of entrainment doesn't override the right for someone now to experience ptsd episodes in their own home.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is being considerate of other's life experiences and then there is being unreasonable. There's so many things that can trigger PTSD in people, are you suggesting we stop doing anything that may trigger someone's trauma? Some people get triggers from benign things (my mother used to suffer traumatic flashbacks from certain smells such as wet mud, I get panic attacks if someone comes up behind me and touches me, I've met someone who gets triggered by cars backfiring or balloons popping). The point is that fireworks, mud, people touching you, and backfiring cars are a part of normal life. There are a TONNE of possible triggers, we couldn't possibly avoid every one of them for every sufferer out there. It isn't up to the rest of the world to change their lives to revolve around us and our issues. It's our own responsibility to try to cope and deal with our problems as best we can. It sucks. I say this as someone who suffers from severe PTSD/agoraphobia among a number of other mental health issues that I have been working on for many years. It's really unfair that this has happened to us but it's also not fair to expect everyone else in the neighbourhood to stop having fun because we are sadly conditioned to have a traumatic response to something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

People associate trauma with other things they were experiencing at the time. To remove all triggers is to remove all experiences. Of course we can be considerate, but there is a limit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Who had their freedom threatened?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never really thought about farm animals and fireworks. How about chickens/horses/etc?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I heard about horses dying from the stress caused by fireworks. It can also be hurtful to wildlife.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Over here in Central Europe, the fourth of July is obviously not a thing. Our fireworks day is the night between the last and the first day of the year.

Over the last few years it got restriceted more and more and now many cities prohibit private fireworks completely and instead put on a professional show in a few places. It's so much better now in basically every aspect.

I mean, who thought that giving drunk people explosives on a massive scale would be a good idea?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, who thought that giving drunk people explosives on a massive scale would be a good idea?

Same ones that handed them guns as a right, speaking as a US Citizen I really hate that right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not so much the right itself, just the batshit crazy interpretation of it and our collective gun fetish culture. The nutjobs zero in on the "shall not be infringed" part completely ignoring the "well regulated" part that comes before that. *sigh*

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firework use is prohibited where I live, but the sale is allowed. I hate it so damn much. Maybe I just getting old, but any kind of noise pollution drives me up the wall these day. I get pissed at my neighbour's Corvette that he insists of revving at 5am almost daily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I get that. I'm living in the city centre in one of Poland's major cities and assholes with motorbikes and sportscars are literally revving the engine ALL. THE. TIME.
And it's such a useless stuff, too. Like, yesterday at 2AM some asshat on a bike just kept burning the tires and revving the engine for 3 minutes straight.

And I had to wake up at 4AM for work, so obviously I'm pissed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In italy we had fireworks constantly hit the house it was so dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It should be said, if you have a puppy or are getting a puppy. Socialize and habituate them to the sounds. Start with recordings of fireworks playing in another room, treat them when they react to the sounds. When they start wagging their tails and come to you when they hear it, make it more intense by increasing the volume or bringing then into the room. Keep practicing and proofing multiple days per week for months until your puppy happily comes to you when they hear loud bangs.

My puppy now wags his tail and joyfully comes to me when lightning strikes because he thinks it's a fun treat game. Absolutely way better than the alternative. It takes a few weeks with puppies, could take years for traumatized rescues and adults.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I haven't invited a dog into my life yet... I still have sooo much to learn about how to help a pup live a happy and healthy life, can't wait though!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We take our puppy to a group training class that socialises our pup to other puppies and drip feeds/reminds us of how to raise him, as well as training. I did a tonne of reading before hand but realised I could have winged it with all the great info at puppy class.

But I waited a decade for me to be in the right place to raise him right. I have prioritised his raising above all else these first 2 months and get to slow down next month as his foundation is quite strong now. It's all been so worth it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is good advice. Sadly it doesn't work for every cat or dog but In most cases this is great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean valid point about ptsd but also that's not what they're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah, last year some chucklehead was firing off big fireworks and set my neighbor's roof on fire. it was around midnight and very scary. one's desire to see pretty bang bangs does not override other's desire to not lose all their shit to a fire.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fireworks are basically banned all over Ontario (Canada), because of the risk of forest fires. That goes for official and unofficial ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are banned in many places in the states, too. Like all of Seattle. Doesn't stop people from doing them though because there are zero repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. Which is odd because you’d think it would be easy for cops to find people who are setting off fireworks. They’re very similar to flares, which are literally used to tell everyone “I’m over here.”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can someone explain what's wrong with the original post? He's not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The people round here love their fireworks. There was a whole ass fireworks show in the fire clearing right down the street. It's almost every night in summer, pretty large aerial fireworks going off, particularly bad the weeks leading up to and after the 4th.

It's annoying af. But I'm used to it, and I don't really have a say in what those people do with their summer nights, nor do I want to.

Taking care of a dog is tough. It's like a child, especially a puppy. I have cats. But always had dogs growing up. I'm still unsure if I want to take the plunge, cause my cat is super needy and will probably hate me lol

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