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[-] [email protected] 118 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that was the reason holding me back. It was the boot up time.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

You kid and aren't wrong, but this was a huge metric when I was first getting into Linux. I remember seeing it prodominantly posted on Ubuntu's site ... I wonder which version... I think 4 or 6?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

The more interesting story here is that in 2023, FreeBSD was still using bubblesort. They made it go 100 times faster than a really slow thing, and we've known it's slow for a long time.

[-] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago

I like the idea of FreeBSD, but I can't see the point of giving up on my Linux conveniences to switch over to it. What advantages does it provide, and are they worth the switch, considering I'm losing a lot of software, as well as any semblance of gaming?

[-] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago

The advantage is that you can rebrand it, close the source and sell it as your invention.

Btw, did you know that Apple invented Unix?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Apple invented Unix?? What the hell are you talking about?

Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, and Joe Ossanna at Bell Labs developed and invented Unix.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

[email protected] ;)

This was a joke about how Apple just takes open source stuff (in this case, they used FreeBSD as a basis for MacOS/iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/watchOS), rebrands it and then claims it was theirs.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Where do they claim it was theirs? macOS is FreeBSD at its core, but Apple has built a lot of shit on top of it. It’s absolutely not FreeBSD with a name change.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What advantages does it provide

ZFS, mostly. There are some smaller peripheral things (like much better manpages), but these days the big one is probably ZFS. Zero licensing conflicts allows it to be an integral part of the kernel.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE switched to the OpenZFS implementation[1]:

The ZFS implementation is now provided by OpenZFS. 9e5787d2284e (Sponsored by iXsystems)

So no big differences now, except for the licensing.

[1] https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Can you explain the differences between the license like I'm five?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Linux is licensed under the GPL, which is described as "copyleft." The GPL requires that if you want to use GPL code you need to license your modified code under the GPL.

FreeBSD is licensed under the BSD license, which is a permissive license. Basically as long as you stick the license statement in your documentation you can do whatever you want with BSD-licensed code. This is why commercial uses (like the Wii's OS) tend to be BSD-based rather than Linux-based.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

The source code used to be cleaner and easier to customise if you needed something specific. And if you leaned that way (of closing up everything), the license is much more lenient of course.

Other than that, nothing much. It's interesting for the sake of it, but bsd has lost the Unix race (which isn't necessarily a good thing).

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're losing software and are no longer gaming, much of complicated driver compatibility issues from peripherals like GPUs won't matter to you.

FreeBSD is the *nix OS which is stable like Debian but doesn't use Systemd ~~like~~, similar to distributions like Gentoo/Antix/Slackware

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Systemd is not inherit to Linux. There are loads of distros out there that dont use it. I reluctantly use it but would still remain on Linux if I wanted to drop it

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

At some point, the same could have been said with win -> linux.

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[-] pastermil 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

On AWS Firecracker

How about on baremetal?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Best I can do is 8 seconds.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I wanted to comment on this being a cool read, but there's too much happening in this thread that is beyond my knowledge. But anyway, cool that this guy is optimizing things like a mofo.

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