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[–] grueling_spool 1 points 16 hours ago

First thing that came to my mind was Crysis 2. Absolute mid-tier FPS, which was unfortunately pretty disappointing coming off of the first game.

Definitely worth a look if you just want to run around and shoot shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Hogwarts Legacy

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Starfield. It's the definition of a "mixed" rating on Steam. It's not bad, but it's not good either. You play it for an hour and your reward is that an hour has passed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

After running through the main story once, I modded it to where you cannot buy any natural resources - they must be harvested in person and/or setup a base and and ship all natural resources to a central storage planet. This essentially turned it into a spreadsheet-logistics game which gave me a a second, much more enjoyable playthrough. But I agree - absolutely medium-tier game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The term you're looking for is "Extra Medium".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ratopia

It's like Oxygen not Included but worse

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much every modern AAA game. Theres an exception here and there but really smaller studios have been making bangers that AAA studios just cant seem to touch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, big studios are setting up to create the mediocrest game they can imagine. Taking risks might make the line not go up, and they can't have this happening.
Ironically, this leeds to creation of absolute dogshit more often than not.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The outer worlds . it was just meh in my opinion. Not to be confused with the outer wilds game that I've yet to play

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was going to say outer worlds as well (outer WILDS is a fantastic game IMO) the game was entirely competent, just unimpressive in every way. Except Pavarti, she is a precocious sugar dumpling and must be protected at all costs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Actual conversation had with my wife, who was watching me play near the end:

"That chick is cute. I bet her romance is adorable!"

"She's aromantic and asexual, you can't romance her."

"I bet her quest line is fun"

"Nope. It's a really boring fetch quest where you set her up on a date with some bland woman old enough to be her mother. She is also very obviously sexually and romantically attracted to this woman."

"...huh."

I love Parvati but Drinking Sapphire Wine is a terrible quest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I thought The Outer Worlds was violently mediocre, and yeah, its really long uninteresting fetch quest, but:

  • Parvati says she's not interested in physical affection, but I don't recall her ever saying she was aromantic. The closest thing I remember is that she feels like she's better at dealing with machines than people, which definitely doesn't mean the same thing.

  • I also don't recall her ever saying anything sexual about Junlei?

  • how old does this woman look to you that you think she could have a 28 year old daughter?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

The quest was nothing new sure, but the reason I'm doing the quest? I want her to have the best dam date ever. I just wanted to see her happy and help her get ready for her date. Not sure what they were talking about with her being aromatic, don't remember that. And about the age thing? not sure what they meant by that either, she looks the same age as Pavarti to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Well, I can sort of be impressed with what outer wilds did. I didn't actually find it all that much fun to play, whereas I completed the outer worlds.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Mechwarrior online.

Free, online "shooter", good community, runs on linux, gameplay is dated and doesnt get tons of dev support anymore but its still how I kill an evening once or twice a week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you like space dogfighter sims, try Chorus. You can score it super cheap on sales and I think it's a solid 6/10. Combat is fun and it's nice to look at. Unfortunately the story has terrible pacing and kinda doesn't make sense at times. Also, the missions get kinda repetitive. These two things really held it back for me, otherwise it's a fairly good game.

Another, if you like top down shooters, is Subterrain. Doesn't always go on sale, but when it does it's dirt cheap because it's like 10 years old at this point. It's got some weird survival mechanics that I think are kinda pointless, but the gameplay and story were enough to keep me mildly entertained. I'd call this a "potato chip" type game. Not particularly good, but somehow kind of satisfying if you don't think too much about it. Definitely a 6/10.

On another note, what's y'all's stance on the association that 5/10 = bad? I feel like it's because people equate it to being 50% and associate that with bad due to school grades. I see it as an average score and when I give something a 5 or 6, that means I'm neutral to slightly positive feeling about it.

[–] grueling_spool 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't think a 5/10 game is necessarily bad, but it needs to have some kind of - I dont know, character? Niche appeal? - to shine for the players who are going to like it.

I'll throw out Krater as an example. It's not great, but it has a unique setting, great atmosphere, and some interesting ideas driving it. I kinda love it for its eccentricities in spite of the overall experience being a bit meh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2 that make fans go bananas.

Torchlight 2; Grim Dawn

Right in the middle of the middle part of the middle part of the middle pack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Torchlight 2 is fun when you start out, but gets really repetitive quite fast. Good fit for a right in the middle

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (10 children)

From recent memory: Starfield.

I didn't think it was terrible in and of itself, but it also wasn't very good. It was just missing that certain something Bethesda RPGs had before it. Just a meh experience the whole way through.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Any assassin's creed from the last 10 years, probs gonna get hate for that but they are just so average to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Also most Ubisoft games in the last 10 years overall

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I got the viking one for free. Didn't make it much farther than the initial area, which is hours long.

I'd say they are worse than mediocre.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the 360 Era — Too Human
The control scheme is bizarre at first (right stick is melee) but it works once you're used to it. It's Sci-Fi Norse mythology, I recall it having a pretty solid art style. I picked it up used from either Blockbuster or EB because I wanted to see just how bad it was, ended up enjoying it far more than I expected, I'll give it a "Yeah, it's ok", disc images are readily available if you want to emulate it, can find a physical copy cheap online too if that's your thing.

This is the game that ended up taking down its studio (Silicon Knights, they developed Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem and Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain, they tried to sue Epic, who countersued and won, probably added to my initial interested tbh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It's interesting that Too Human began development as a PSX game, back in the late 90s. Quite a bit of development hell to go through

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Probably everytbing put out by Nintendo in a long time. Yes, even that one. That one, too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Excuse you, but Breath of the Wild was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Breath of the Wild was basically a Ubisoft game with a Zelda coat of paint.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But instead of playing the map as a menu screen, you actually play in the world and discover things.

That was the crucial difference for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I envy you and wish I could see games through your eyes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think Blackmist has a hot take here. The Ubisoft formula is: navigate to a tower. Tower gives you a checklist of things to do. You do the things, then look for a new tower.

Breath of the Wild is different. Yes, you start by navigating to a tower, but then… no checklist is given. You look around, you explore, you find things to do. Maybe you find everything, maybe you miss things, maybe you miss everything. You can always come back and explore more later… and when you’ve done everything, you can’t really be CERTAIN that you got it all. The lack of a checklist dramatically shifts the gameplay from doing a list of events, with little difference from selecting them from a menu, to actually having to explore the world and look around.

To call it the Ubisoft formula is to vastly misunderstand what the Ubisoft formula is. The formula is a list of things to do. BotW does not have that. Not even slightly. The towers are just something to aim for to get you started, and a place you can use your eyes to look around from, also to get you started.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

And to add to that, it also gives you the tools for discovery. It's not just "Ubisoft, but they hide the icons".

The shrine detector (which can become an anything detector), the ability to look through binoculars or whatever it is and stamp a limited number of visible waypoints onto the map. Tears of the Kingdom gives you a slightly obscure ability to highlight all the cave entrances nearby, which you can then try to mark up and see if you've been there.

Other games have started trying to do some of this, but I think a lot of it is added late on in development and doesn't really work well. Like Jedi Survivor gives you the ability to mark things with icons, but what for? You can't see the markers when you're walking around. There's not really much to discover from a distance, and it's pretty far from being a vast open world.

Is it perfect? No. The last few shrines are often a complete ball-ache to find, although a lot of them are just a generic fight and they're pretty optional, it feels like you should do them.

Is it better than a world as a menu screen as offered by Ubisoft and those that copy them? Yes.

I think in general a lot of developers should take a long look at what they're actually trying to make before going with the open world approach. It's getting tired, and they're mostly doing it badly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ubisoft wishes they could make a game that good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They do make games that good, hence the comparison.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Basically sure. But the devil is in the details.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't censor yourself, who are you afraid of??

Mario Kart World

Just say it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A hell of a lot of Ubisoft open-world slop released around and in the 2010s.

[–] thatKamGuy 33 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Had all the individual makings of an exceptional game (with input from Todd Macfarlane, R A Salvatore and Grant Kirkhope), and while it was definitely enjoyable enough - it lacked any wow-factor whatsoever, winding up an otherwise forgettable 7/10.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is probably more subjective than best/worst. So...

Vanilla Skyrim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It was a fun game, but the main quest was so railroading.

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