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Original question by @[email protected]

I am currently using Obsidian. I like it; it is great. The graph is a bit of a gimmick but very rewarding. The formatting is easy. The search can be great and powerful, but Markdown can also be a letdown sometimes; it is just so limiting sometimes.

I think Obsidian is almost boring. It works, and my main gripe is syncing it to my phone. I have tried using Syncthing, but I often get clashes with versions of notes or even lose notes, even when using Syncthing versioning.

But then there is Notion. Let me first say, I have not used Notion at all. I made an account, saw all the great stuff, especially the database feature and all the APIs, but something felt off.

Of course, I researched the privacy of Notion and realised it is a complete dumpster fire.

My work is confidential; I really can't use something like Notion. But then, for my personal stuff, I also don't want AI to be trained on it or used for marketing to me or on me.

Are there alternatives to Notion that someone can recommend to me?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TrilliumNext Notes is an excellent open-source alternative to both Notion and Obsidian.

https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Looks great indeed!

[–] RayJW 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://anytype.io/ would probably check those boxes! It's sadly only source-available but that's already much better than Notion and Obsidian :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This product has always confused the heck out of me.

It says it's peer to peer "No server, no gatekeeper: peer-to-peer sync on local networks", but then they have plan options to pay for more storage??

And they have a line "Joining the Anytype network means contributing to our story" which is strange because it kind of implies that my stuff is getting shared somewhere.

Every time I go on this website I feel like someone accidentally put the marketing copy for 2 different products together.

[–] unabart 1 points 5 days ago

I have been using Joplin notes and syncing it through my Nextcloud across all devices (ipad, iphone, Mac… other platforms are supported and I have an option to run ut in a docker container in CasaOS). The effortless syncing is my main draw.

It has a nice plugin repository and active/helpful community supporting it.

It’s not feature bloated, though you certainly can achieve this with enough plug-ins.

They list their privacy policy here: https://joplinapp.org/privacy/ - always be wary of plugins and other external sources.

https://joplinapp.org/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Maybe take a look at SiYuan. (https://github.com/siyuan-note/siyuan) Fully open source and self-hostable with WebUI. For full sync functionality with apps (not WebUI), they want a one-time payment of $64 as of right now. I'm personally just using the free version on TrueNAS and very happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I mean, afaik no. Theres Nextcloud with E2EE OR Server side encryption, but you have to self host (and only choose one encryption method) but Ive only heard of syncthing food & Privacy wise.