Hoping to see better support for Linux. The Fairphone team collaborated on the Ubuntu Touch port for the Fairphone 4, but didn't do the same for the Fairphone 5. It would be great to see VoLTE on Linux on the Fairphone 6.
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What is this, they need licensing to be sold in the US or to be used?
Just to get 200% tarriffs slapped on them?
lol, that article is brutal
"Yeah, it's probably not gonna be anything interesting and we hope we don't have to show up in person, because of traffic."
Hope they bring back the 3.5mm jack
Hopefully it isn't 700โฌ with no headphone jack and spotty support this time...
Bring back jackie or we not talkie!
It kills me that they know they won't have big market share anyway but then go and give people one less reason to go with them. Same with shiftphone.
That and morons arguing against a jack as if they couldn't keep using their Bluetooth stuff all the same.
Yeah. The big reason for flagship phones to eliminate the jack, IP-waterproofing, does not apply to this anyway.
The problem with being such a small producer, is that going too far away from industry standard would make the products a lot more pricy.
Jack is stil an industry standard in all but flqgship phones.
I donโt need a headphone jack I need degoogled OS.
Should but to be honest and I will get flak for this but USB-C headphones are really good. I really want a bigger battery even if it's swappable and a good update sched.
Now, get this: a phone that has both a USB port and a 3.5mm jack ๐คฏ
Seems pointless to add a feature that barely anyone would use, that's the reality.
โฆbarely anyone would useโฆ
Your honour, this is conjecture! If we're gonna play this game then I'll point out that the "barely anyone" who would use such a feature might very much overlap the "barely anyone" who is the target market for a fairphone.
The point is that it can be very costly for a small company like FP to break the mold too much from the industry standards when designing the phone and ordering the parts and assembly. If FP had a bigger volume, they could do it.
I'm sorry but this is a pure BS cop-out.
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Most low-end cheap phones still have a headphone jack, they wouldn't do this if it was a cost burden.
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A headphone jack plus a driver chip is literally pennies at their production scale. Making the hole in the housing and putting in a gasket after the fact would be more expensive than the headphone jack itself
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They have custom bodies anyway due to their repairability. Changing the body mold to include the hole for the headphone jack is trivial as they already have to make holes for the antennas
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"The standard" of the phone industry literally 5 years ago was that every phone had a headphone jack. Only after Samsung followed apple in 2019 with the note 10 did companies think for the coming years "I can make slightly more profit and sell my wireless earbuds if I remove it"
Guess what year Samsung put out their first wireless earbuds? 2019, the same year they removed the headphone jack
Guess what year Apple removed the headphone jack? The exact same time that they released their wireless earbuds.
Guess what fairphone put out the year they removed the headphone jack? Wireless earbuds.
It is, was, and always has been a money-grubbing ploy to sell wireless earbuds for greater profit. That is just the truth and there is no way to spin it that removes history that the only actual motivation behind it is to sell more wireless accessories.
Most low end phones use completely off the shelf parts. FP is trying to take control of design and materials as much as possible. If you want to do both, that becomes harder and costlier. That's how China manufacturing works.
New entrants need to break the mould...or else they are a worse version of market leaders.
You're arguing that fairphone of all companies won't or can't go against industry standards?
I just use a dap since phone 3.5mm jacks are built like shit and break when you listen to music while phone is in your jean pockets.
That way i always have phone or music battery.
That way i can actually store more than just music on my phone.
God damn it i just bought the 5
Same. If FP6 has a smaller form factor and an amazing camera I will be very annoyed.
Fairphone has a quite long software support. Your phone won't be worse with something new. But sometimes they slow with new major updates
thanks for your sacrifice.
but that isn't a problem with faifone, your phone will last a long time
I bought the 4 a few months before they announced the 5. I felt betrayed because I expected them to announce a fairphone 4+, like they did with the 3... I was expecting them to make phones of theseus that you can upgrade for years but that's clearly not what they are going for :(
I hope that there are components from the 6 that can be used to upgrade the 5
This is the time for Fairphone.
I recently was looking at upgrades for my s22 and everything so incremental to the point where it feels like smartphones have peaked couple years ago. It's a great opportunity for Fairphone to catch up now that the moat is mostly gone.
Just wish I could buy one in the US.
Same here in Australia. Let me be ethical!!
I haven't had a great experience with my fairphone 4. app/phone crashes, ghost touching, now they announced that they're skipping support for Android 14, technical support has also been rather unresponsive. to top it off, they are usually very late with their security patches and apparently their verified boot implementation is horrible, they use the aosp test keys (which are publicly available) to cryptographically sign their firmware, which completely negates the point of the thing. I guess that's on par with the software support in general...
so yeah, can't recommend the company as is unfortunately ๐
Agreed; I don't hate my FP4, but it's definitely the least polished phone I've ever owned, and it wasn't cheap for it. The ghosting was a nightmare, but they fixed it (eventually) with a software update...which begs the question why it shipped with a bug like that in the first place.
The company has been around far too long to get away with putting out buggy devices.
And that's before we get to the failure to update FP4 (let alone FP3+) to Android 14, despite being well within their support period. In theory FP4 will be going straight to Android 15, but FP3+ is effectively grounded at Android 13; which considering their stated goal of reducing e-waste, is really not a good look.