Cars - For Car Enthusiasts

I don't. But I'm guessing it's like the green party voters here on Vancouver Island who are just conservatives who recycle.

On top of that what the fuck do you think the prime models are?

Gas/Electric Hybrids. Not EVs.

an efficient motor that allows you to use less battery resources which require dirty AF mining.

Wait, you're calling battery mining "dirty AF", when the battery materials are mined exactly one time, while gasoline requires extraction again, and again, and again for the entire life of the car? I think you've got your priorities mixed up.

Primes are better options for 100% of Americans than a BEV.

Why do I need to haul around hundreds of lbs/kg of engine, fuel tank, and all the other garbage of an ICE drivetrain when I don't need it? Oh, for the maybe one time in my life when I'll need to drive farther than 300 miles between charging stations? If that ever happens, I'll just rent an ICE car for the day.

Also, a Prius Prime only has about 40 miles of all EV range. Why are you sending me to the gas station to get more range from petroleum extracted from the Earth, dragged hundreds of miles between refining and delivery when I can just plug my car in at home and charge from my solar array instead?

I agree that a prime is better for many Americans, but the weirdos that live in cities still technically exist and some of those don't have family hundreds of miles away with no charging infrastructure inbetween.

But the prius is not built the way you are explaining - up until recently, there was no prius plug-in. What you are arguing for is exactly like that Chevy Volt. Daily EV use, long-distance capability. The standard prius can do something like 1.5mi of range at light throttle application (like 'you're going to get shot at' acceleration speeds), from a full battery.

I could make the same types of arguments with engines, and the fact that tiny explosions happen a foot away from the passenger compartment, every second, for the life of the vehicle, regardless of factors like how economical it is to drive that vehicle, or how scarce fuel becomes. Whereas batteries can be recycled and refurbished, making the argument of creating new batteries less of a viable argument day by day.

Public transport is important, but unless the average consumer can also drop a few mill on helping build that infrastructure faster, it's out of our control. Vote for it, but that's about all you can do.

I'm not 'not seeing the big picture', I'm telling you that a company has lied to you about its intentions and what is best for the potential customers.

I used to own a first gen, first year, Nissan Leaf. Thing was damn amazing - large cargo capacity, enjoyable driving experience, charging the battery cost me just ~$1.25 to go around 75 miles. It was the pioneer of affordable mass-market EVs, and I expected Toyota of all competitors to jump in the most aggressively and not let Nissan steal the slow. A decade later, they have just one true EV model in their lineup for NA. They spent damn near 30 years sitting on the idea, and didn't bite. Using the popularity of the prius to push back their R&D, and aiding that with legal bullshit and disinformation. They have only now shifted strategies since they realized that it's no longer viable.

I can be both pissed off at a bad company, and also hopeful for the future. It's not one or the other.