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Posts that don't follow the rules and don't comply with them after being pointed out that they break the rules will be deleted no matter how much engagement they got and then reposted by me in a way that follows the rules. I'm going to wait for max 2 days for the poster to comply with the rules before I decide to do this.
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Content for this sub: A Proposal for AI-Enhanced Curation (lemmy.fmhy.ml)

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I've spend a lot of time on r/singularity the past year but over that time i have seen it grow pretty disappointing.

The complexity of "The Singularity" means that some great articles, like those on nanoparticles, get overlooked and buried because they're harder to understand than a ChatGPT meme (no offense to those, though).

Finding new, high-quality content to share on this topic isn't easy either, especially with the influx of sensationalist articles. And if I do find a great article, chances are high that @Martineski has already posted it (good job, by the way).

So, here's an idea: why don't we get some futuristic help? There's a bunch of websites that are generally posted here more frequently because there content is just more aligned with out interests (my guess). We could have an AI sift through the .rss feeds from these sites, pick out the best articles, post them here and even include a brief summary explaining why you, an interested singularity enjoyer should care.

This could help us find and understand the right content more easily, and kickstart more engaging discussions about the singularity and our future. It's a proactive step to keep our community vibrant and informative. Thoughts?

Yes this post was partly made with help from ChatGPT.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's not curation, that's a smart(ish) bot account. And personally, I tried to get away from that. On the other hand, a not as such being a first line of moderation would be an interesting experiment. Along with a weekly counter of "X days since 'I can't do that Dave' slipped up.

Joking aside, I don't like the idea, mostly because it'll get real spammy real fast. Even if the spam is on interesting things, it's still spam. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but I prefer people posting interesting stuff and then actual discussions happening on that stuff over a glorified RSS feed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, running it in a fully automatic mode is a big no no but I would love it if someone made a tool that can collect news for me in a nice and organised manner so I can go through them and post quality/interesting ones. When you talk about "x days since..." I assume you're talking about what I do with titles of my posts, I already decided to do that only for articles/posts that are 7 days or older.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its a good habit to label older things. the landscape especially in AI change so fast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If lemmy makes title character limit higher then I will start writing full dates but I'm not gonna do that now because there's no space for that even though it's only a few characters longer than what I do already.

Edit: I will edit all my previous posts too if they make titles longer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh no, that was basically a weekly post or something that said "X days since not went on a psychedelic trip and I had to moderate it."

Edit: Though I'll be honest, that Right to repair thing on my front page went way over the imagineray spammy line for me. But for all I know the right to repair entered my instance and got pulled in it's entirety in about a couple of hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I must've missed it because I don;t understand the context lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't miss it. It was a joke suggestion. Don't worry about it. I could explain it, but considering it was a joke, I don't think it adds much to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you don't like that posts from a certain community are showing too much you have option to block/mute the community btw. And remember about this feature because I'm gonna send hundreds (potentially 1000+) of images on various of my subs once they permamently fix uploading images, including mecha artworks, monster artworks, anti car society posts and lots of antiwork posts too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was not personal, and I know that. I also know there's a massive growth currently so I don't let it bother me. I can be patient until things settle down in a couple of months or so, then I'll weed out my wall from what I consider spam or not. I'm not letting this growth taint my view on communities I am potentially interested in. The only reason I said that was to give an example of what I think of as spam, not to be critical.

And I'm looking forward to artworks. Especially mecha ones. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, I'm sending everything to my sublemmies so it can't be considered spam, although I myself am annoyed at how hard it is to find posts from other sublemmies on local feed because half of post are mine lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a curation of sorts of the whitelisted rss feeds. I agree there is definitely a risk of it becoming spammy so it should be used very carefully and

For the Ai summaries though I got my inspiration from "why you should know" rule on the YSK place and i quite like the idea not only to increase post quality but also with how diverse and technical singularity topics can get. I hope to find some deeper discussions here eventually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What I'm most against is the spam. If for example it was a daily post with a repository of links to interesting stuff of the day, tech advancements etc, I'd be all in for it. But that doesn't foster conversation.

In general, at first I was really happy with the subreddit. Then it became spammy and started scrolling past it. Then it became a circlejerk of 'this robot peeled a banana. Woe me the singularity' and I started flat out ignoring it.

Long as this community doesn't turn to that and works either for discussions or a repository of knowledge on AI and science, I'll be giddy to see new posts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think that at some point I will be doing weekly posts with curated by me posts where you can click on each topic and you will be redirected to the post with the article or paper where you can discuss it. The weekly post will be pinned and will have links to previous posts with curated news. I want to do it because the more people start posting the more average quality of the posts will go down and it will be harder to find more interesting ones.

Edit: I'm open to ideas on how to improve this sublemmy and protect it from worsening.

Edit2: Actually, I may start doing it as soon as we hit our first week of posts to get good at doing it before more people join so I don't have to learn in front of many people lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a great idea actually. Though I don't envy you the extra workload. It would help both as an aggregator and to foster conversations. As for suggestions, I actually like the one that this post was based on. Be more..open to subjects. Ones of course that still fit the subject and the purpose of the community, but are not limited to just AI.

Also I haven't the simplest idea of how moderation is on lemmy but I think my biggest problem with the subreddit was that daily partial doom and gloom post that we're all going to die yesterday and partial deification of the AI. I found humour into it at the beginning, but got tiring fast.

And while I doubt I bring any value to it, my hope is that the community stays focused on science and AI and the discussion of it, be it scientific papers and progress reports or helping each other out (if someone for example needs help with running some AIs locally, long as it doesn't become a 'how do I get tits to smile at me. Folk said SD is good at that') type of thing.

...if my rambling makes any sense, I'm awake for about 42h and my head feels mushy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This sub isn't ai exclusive it's also for advancements in technology and about futurology, it's just that the ai is the main focus.

Edit: Holy shit! Go to sleep lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I really really like that idea. Why havent people done things like that sooner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i really like the idea of having one active post from the AI at the top which gets replaced regularly, it could have the AI summarise active threads saying things like 'users seem to like the idea of AI Curated posts but some have reservations about it as they fear it'll get spammy' maybe even it'll be able to gather some statistics '70% of replies were favourable to AI Curation however slightly over half of those in favour suggest it should happen in a limited capacity..' that could be really interesting.

it could also do a round-up of related sites and news outlets in a section where it says things like 'this story has been written about widely in the media, these articles express a generally favourable approach while these draw a counter opinion. These articles are of note or contain extra details; wired.com 'Should the singularity community on fmhy adopt AI Curation?' contains a detailed discussion with @webghost0101 who proposed the idea, yahoo finance 'singularity community to adopt AI Curation?' raises an interesting point not made elsewhere [quote from article].

it might even help shame us users into being better community members 'today there are 47 meme posts about the exact same topic. all of them are reposts and as of the last scan 0 people have said anything new or original.'

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