Switzerland is not part of the UE, therefor kSuite is not a european product.
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Too much unnecessary Russophobia in this. It’s like blaming every US citizen for the evil things that the US government and big tech corporations like Google, Meta etc. do. Stop that generalisation.
How does OnlyOffice often get left out even though it’s one of the best and most popular office suites?
It's mentioned in the bottom left. Whoever made this has a problem with their ownership having been Russian in the past.
Any labels for self-hostable? I'd rather keep my documents on my own hardware while also collaborating.
Nextcloud has a collabora integration
And it's free to host your own instance of Collabora Online Development Edition.
NextCloud's built in office is powered by Libre Office and they have an official Only Office integration as well.
Also missing are WPS Office and Only Office.
I don't know where these "guides" come from, seen several of them pop up. It is like a guide to mostly paid, corporate alternatives, not necessarily open source. There are lots of open source alternatives and configurations to get away from all of google's services. Ksuite? please, no.
“But staff and ownership are Russian.”
Ok. Does that matter for open source software?
Yes? It takes a lot of time for open sourced code to be examined to make sure there's nothing shady in there.
Just because it's open source doesn't mean it doesn't phone back home or it won't have a sketchy update in the future that can use some exploit to dig so deep in your device that even a factory reset won't undo it
How is there an office guide without OnlyOffice? They're a huge player.
Edit: Just saw the Russian thing. So? You've got a lot of FOSS software to abandon if ownership and devs are a concern without evidence of a code issue. Might want to reconsider posting to Lemmy, in fact.
LibreOffice has been working "fine" for my DeGoogled personal life.
Work is heavily Googled still (and not entirely up to me), but I've practiced a hard barrier between work tech and personal tech for years now. In case I can sway any colleagues: Anybody feeling like any of these alternatives would be ready for a small or larger team to jump over to that routinely collaborates on spreadsheets, documents and slides?
Onlyoffice should be mentioned. Has a mobile app too, though it absolutely sucks ass. It's fine for viewing, but it just crashes more often than you can save your document (spreadsheets at least)
Really happy with OnlyOffice.
It connects to my kDrive account where all my documents are saved and works fine.
The iOS app is really useful for making small modifications or consulting documents.
It's fine on desktop, but the android app is too buggy to use for editing. It's ok for viewing, but editing makes it crash constantly. Also making even simple formulas is painful, it just won't cooperate
It is mentioned in the bottom that only Western hegemony open source is mentioned.
OnlyOffice is so much better too.
That is what I use. Doesn't it have the best translation to/fro Micro$oft, especially with Excel?
I've been using LibreOffice and its predecessor, OpenOffice, for yeeeeeears. Maybe 20 years? I have no complaints.
Need to add onlyoffice.
It is there in Other Options. But IDK why OP says it's Russian. Ascensio System Ltd is British.
This thread highlights how they tried hiding their origins after the war broke out. https://forum.cryptpad.org/d/232-onlyoffice-concerns-vendor-makes-shady-moves
Thanks for this, I'm a longtime user of OO and had no idea. LibreOffice just doesn't do it for me. Going to try Freeoffice...
I'm thinking of switching to mailbox.org since I'm a slut for one stop solutions and I'm in it deep with google docs/calendar/sheets/email. Anyone here used it and have thoughts? I like the idea of custom email domain idk if ksuite does that too, but I like the look of ksuite's collaborative docs setup and large cloud storage
I prioritize simple keyboard shortcuts, unfortunately LibreOffice sucks at that and the customization of shortcuts is lacking.
I'll look at the free tiers of some of the online ones to see what it's like for them. I just want a few basics, ontop of the common ones (bold, increase size, etc.)
- toggle bullets / numbers
- change styles (e.g. heading 1)
- insert hyperlink
LibreOffice + self-hosted next cloud = ???
since I moved to Linux back in August I've been using libreoffice. the only issue I have had is the default paper size being whatever it is Europeans use (printers full of eagle paper got mad) but after changing it I had no issues.
Love the FUD around Onlyoffice lmao
"Every person from insert current enemy of the West is inherently evil and should be judged by their ethnicity. Everything they touch is inherently bad and should be avoided. You say it's a proven and transparent FOSS application that's one of the best suites right next to Libre office if not better for ppl switching off of M$ Office? Sorry, evil Ruzzians tainted it with their touch, means I have to downgrade it's visibility and mark it in red" seems to be the mentality behind that
least xenophobic/racist liberal
Edit: apparently ppl don't know how free and open source software works... (usually, like in this case, you don't have to pay for it!) Also the company is Latvian, AFAIK some of the staff is just Russian (newsflash, many Latvian citizens are Russian).
Also you can't be racist and xenophobic towards a corporation, companies aren't people man
There's nothing xenophobic about avoid a Russian company that offers software solutions. Partaking even in a small Russian company's ventures will render profit that will get taxed and those taxes used to fuel the war economy.
A company is not a person. Choosing not to support a company because it ultimately benefits its home country, which is actively waging war, should be considered a negative. Whether it is enough not to use their services is up to each individual. As you said, it is a FOSS application, so if you aren't using one of their paid plans, how much is it truly benefiting them?
Also, I don't think this is a "insert current enemy of the West" scenario. Ukraine isn't traditionally considered part of the West, and it has support from most countries and people worldwide (not just the West).