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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Religion is for three kinds of people:

Fools

Liars

Disobedient children with fools or liars as parents

Tolerance of religion is a paradox as every religion is intolerant of other religions.

Yes Buddhism too.

Respect is earned. Trust is earned.

Religion deserves neither.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not every religion is intolerant of other religions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Greetings fellow lemming I’m new here and hope we can have a productive discussion.

Please allow me to elucidate my perspective on this question: are all religions intolerant?

I say yes, let me explain.

Many have told me about “their god” and I take their word for it. I believe everything everyone has told me about “their god”. Powerful, all knowing, usually vindictive, often horny for human girls, etc.

Resultantly I believe in all of “their gods”.

And I drew a conclusion about that guy.

I think “god” is a piece of shit unworthy of praise and we should seek to destroy and erase it. Those who worship it are dangerous and not to be trusted. At best they need psychiatric care, likely many of them should be incarcerated. The link between “piety” and “skeletons in the closet” is strong.

I hate god and have no respect for god-fearing people and no tolerance for their “beliefs”

Which supernatural make-believe system (read: religion ) is tolerant of my supernatural make-believe system?

Please don’t mistake my anger at religions as anger at you.

Cheers mate

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I agree, fuck all religions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Many have told me about “their god” and I take their word for it.

Resultantly I believe in all of “their gods”.

I'm following so far

And I drew a conclusion about that guy.

What do you mean "that guy". I thought we just established these are multiple guys?

I think “god” is a piece of shit unworthy of praise and we should seek to destroy and erase it.

What do you mean "it"? Don't you mean "them"?

I hate god and have no respect for god-fearing people and no tolerance for their “beliefs”

Why are you talking about a singular God here? It reads like you're blaming Yahweh for Zeus' sexual behaviour and you're blaming Hanuman for the Great Flood.

These aren't the same character. Each "God" claim needs to be evaluated separately.

For example why do you hate Persephene so much? Why is she a piece of shit. You claim to believe in her right Your reasons shouldn't include examples from the Bible.

Which supernatural make-believe system (read: religion ) is tolerant of my supernatural make-believe system?

You might find company among the Satanic Temple or other Satanists.

You said "Buddhism" was ruled out but you didn't actually clarify so until you present your reasoning I'd say Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism and Jainism all lacking God's are partially compatible.

I mean to be fair there's not going to be a great answer because this isn't a real question but a gotcha. And I say that as an atheist.

You obviously don't actually believe in all the gods, your earlier language shows you haven't thought enough about what that means and force them all into the same one God.

The Hittites believed in "all the gods" and absorbed every new God of neighbors they conquered. But they truly believed in these gods, not as a gotcha question but they really believed in the power of these entities.

Regardless of personal moral views on their behavior, outwardly taunting that being seems silly in light of genuine faith.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

If your religion is somehow linked to the place you were born it's not your religion. You are indoctrinated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I were to guess why its probably because religious communities always tend to lean into hateful rhetoric against "others".

People realize the closer you are to religion the further from God you feel as you couldn't believe that judgement of other humans is wise from an all knowing being if it exists.

Then the internet of course gives so many alternate sane opinions for consumption and exposure readily at your fingertips.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ex-Roman Catholic here. I was never particularly devout but this is what drove me away from the church once and for all. I have never seen people preach about God’s love with so much hate in their hearts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

"Donald Trump was sent by God to stop abortions"

Is when I realized, yes, I do actually hate organized religion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Religion has nothing to do with God, even if you believed God exists, then since God is omnipresent you can have a relationship with God from anywhere. Why would you need to gather with a group of people and have middle men priest who claim to speak on behalf of God. Religions are about power, control, elitism and us vs them tribalism. If there was a god, he'd be disgusted by the barbaric things done by religious people in his name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Religion is not necessarily the same as religious institutions. Christianity is quite an outlier with its heavy centralization in the case of Catholicism, but there is many denominations of Christianity that are not adhering to a centralized institution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

It doesn't necessarily mean they become atheists; some switch religions. While in the West religion is in overall decline, in the global south, Christian evangelicals are on the rise. This is especially the case in Brazil where Catholicism is on decline but evangelicals are growing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

If I changed Jesus name to Bob and worshipped Bob in the exact same way id be called insane.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

If counting Christianity then it will be a lot higher. I'm baptised and stuff like that, but that was just tradition. I never believed in a god.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Monotheism was a mistake! The last save point was hermeticism, it's going to take us ages to get to the enlightenment again. 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Excuse me, is hermeticism not a monotheistic philosophy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nope, technically it's henotheistic. Hermeticism doesn't deny the existence of others gods, but does believe in one supreme God.

https://arnemancy.com/articles/hermeticism/monotheism-in-hermetism/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Well, during the enlightenment it existed in a Christian context. I do not see how one can disavow monotheism and accept hermericism, since other gods in it are hardly important to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You only see two types of people who believe in religon:

1- Bad people who abuse it for evil to benefit in life: Such political indoctrination and control, pedo cults, Israel zionists, ISIS Islamsits ..etc.

2- Oppressed and poor people who use it as a coping and hope mechanim for the afterlife: This applies globally across all religons and continents from South America to East Asia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mixing bigotry against religious people with classism and a sprinkle of racism does not make it rational. There is plenty of religious people who are neither oppressed or poor, nor do they use their religion for oppression of other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I didn't downvote neither upvote your comment because I kind of agree with you.

IMO, I feel those people are on auto-pilot faith which they inherted from their parents, but also because it has a positive presence in their lives. However, unlike people who endure jail or injustice, or oppression or poverty who need faith to survive life. just my personal view point

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