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Hello there, so I am in the country where there is basically only one drug methylphenidate available and even that on a good day and queues to get it and make appointment to the super expensive PRIVATE psych are several months.

Hence I decide I am gonna screw that and opt for a FOSS DIY ADHD therapy pathway.

I am already doing one medical thing pure DIY out of similar reasons, ordering substrates from China. But the difference here is that they aren't outright illegal substances.

I can't wait however for who knows if there will be or won't be, I need the good stuff now and I need the proper dosage and a treatment plan. Links. Information. Papers. What to check beforehand. Which blood tests or screenings to perform. What to monitor during the treatment. Finally I need advise for procurement of the medicine and its proper forms in Eastern Europe.

I know the risks but I figure that life good lived is worth them generally as I am unable to fulfill any and all deadlines that are such an essential part of our society. I am ready to expose myself to a reasonable level of risk in exchange for an actual life.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

CBD and coffee help me. A good diet, regular exercise, and a set schedule help too.

I'd urge caution over black market stuff though, probably not worth the risks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious how you integrate CBD. I've only ever had it before bed for sleep

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Cooking and a dynavap. Tinctures sometimes too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Might help.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have links, but in the UK a lot of the official healthcare recommendations are available from NICE (the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence). When I wanted to come off my anxiety meds (they were doing nothing because my issues were undiagnosed adhd, not anxiety) but didn't have access to a doctor, I looked up the guidelines and followed the exact withdrawl program and everything went fine.

Making your one pills is much more challenging and risky (as you know) but I 100% sympathise. To not get the health care you need, because you live in a country without up to date treatments for your issue is not fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Which country? Just curious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

I am OK now, but when I moved to France adhd meds were only prescribed for children. Coming from the UK and having been prescribed medication that changed my life, I was not willing to stop taking it. So I had to smuggle it to France. Fortunately, they've changed the rules, but I will not let me health be dictated by out of date rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just in case nobody told you yet: you need your liver tested regularly, your blood pressure and pulse about every few months. Try to get speed if you know good sources. But maybe you can also get some amphetamine from neighbouring countries? You're going into illegal territory there, might as well just find a drug dealer. There's people who will just sell you the right amphetamines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t know how to find a drug dealer even if my life depended on it lol haha

Thanks for the monitoring advice. Do they usually sell things impure with contaminants? Just fillers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've never taken any illegal drugs, so I'm not the expert. But all I've heard is that pharmacy stuff is purer and cleaner.

I guess you just go on telegram or some other chat groups, maybe discord. Don't find your drug dealer in a club, I'd say. But again, I have no experience

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hmm okay gotcha. I would very much like to get into the adhd meds resell market that should exist somewhere there. Some kind of crypto payment and shipping to parcel lockers. It has to be a thing

Yes I know that existence of this market is the very thing probably responsible for various shortages but what can you do

And I happen to be in EU so like there’s no way someone is gonna check on the border anything so I could find someone from any of the EU countries.

The only question is how as I said kill me I can’t do such things.

I known someone who could go on vacation to some place and already knew how to get every drug known to humankind on the first day there

[–] Chef 2 points 16 hours ago

Maybe consider some nootropics? There are a few peptides that are available that have shown results for ADHD like Semax.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

LTO3 is a (relatively expensive) supplement that does not require any monitoring or checks. It's just a supplement. But it has been doing wonders for me: I have been free of brain fog for 3 months now (before it was always foggy).

It's not as strong as all the amphetamins but maybe it's useful to know about it :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Does it have a chemical name of the compound or what is it exactly?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm guessing they don't have weed or CBD in your country?

You can also look into some "essential oil" hippy readings to find shit for anxiety, like filling your living space with lavender burning. I don't know how you would get such herbs out there but it's worth looking up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Weed is making things so much worse for me. Anxiety is my only drive in life to do boring stuff. And when its levels go down, my level of productivity plummets to the point of nothing is getting done anymore.

The frick is that hippy stuff? sounds like some load of bollocks no offense

[–] [email protected] -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In the US, some people look for "alternative medicine" out of fear that pharma companies are trying to "mind control them with unnatural products" or some shit. I'm not sure the exacts, but it relates to paranoia around artificially grown substances and one or two instances where genetically modified organisms (GMOs) caused disturbing mutations. A lot of this alternative medicine involves essential oils, which are plant based oils made from like one singular plant mostly used for vaporizers and hot baths, which is why it gets dismissed as "hippy stuff." But some of those treatments aren't entirely farfetched, and some even stem from ancient Wiccan practices.

Here's an article from a magazine that moreso gives off that vibe. https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/g37212791/best-essential-oils-for-anxiety/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

But some of those treatments aren’t entirely farfetched, and some even stem from ancient Wiccan practices.

AKA snake oil.

At best, essential oils can be slightly relaxing or stimulating just like smelling the thing the oil is based on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Could look into phenethylamine with an MAOI but definitely vet this suggestion to be sure its legit. Not sure if actually works in vivo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Cmon I am not gonna blast myself with some experimental early stages drug candidates. Reasonable level of risk. I meant more legal risks. Health risks would preferably be equal to that of an official treatment. No experiments on living bodies nah that's for them lab rats.

I can handle explanations in court, make sweet eyes and go for a year of public service cleaning work but I don't think I can handle explanations at emergency room

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

K, phenethylamine is not an early stage drug, its literally what all other mainstream amphetamines and stimulant are descended from and an otc supplement allegedly used for same and as a workout supplement. So maybe check things out if you actually want ideas and people to entertain interacting with you at all. Its very legal and I assume it has a decent therapeutic window or it probably wouldnt be so lightly regulated, altho don't know about efficacy cuz I'm prescribed the real deal which I'm taking right now so I've never needed to branch out in the way you need to

In vivo was an odf thing for me to tack on their but there's a basis to the suggestion. You seem pretty desperate so I doubt there's a an actual line in the sand here lol. Goodluck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Don't take me wrong. I just need to be skeptical of things I will need to take for quite a long time. I want to focus on safety and it just didn't sound like something that is established or well researched

My ideal approach to safety is: Researched long term effects, many trials, tried substances with known recommendations -> Reputable supplier with documented ingredients to avoid impurities -> Legal stuff like minimizing private data exposure -> Pre treatment health check -> Health monitoring