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Hi all, Relatively long time Linux user (2017 to be precise), and about two 3rds of that time has been on Arch and its derivatives.

Been running Endeavour OS for at least 2.5 years now. It's a solid distro until it's not. I'd go for months without a single issue then an update comes out of nowhere and just ruins everything to either no return, or just causes me to chase after a fix for hours, and sometimes days. I'm kinda getting tired of this trend of sudden and uncalled for issues.

It's like a hammer drops on you without you seeing it. I wish they were smaller issues, no, they're always major. Most of the time I'd just reinstall, and I hate that. It's so much work for me.

I set things the way I like them and then they're ruined, and the hunt begins. I have been wanting to switch for a long time, and I honestly have even been looking into some of those immutable distros (that's how much I don't want to be fixing my system.

I'm tired, I just want to use my system to get work done). I was also told that Nobara is really good (is it? Never tried it). My only hold back — and it's probably silly to some of you— is the AUR. I love it.

It's the most convenient thing ever, and possibly the main reason why I have stuck with Arch and its kids. Everything is there.

So, what do y'all recommend? I was once told by some kind soul to use an immutable distro and setup "distrobox" on it if I wanted the AUR.

I've never tried this "distrobox" thing (I can research it, no problem). I also game here and there and would like to squeeze as much performance as I can out of my PC (all AMD, BTW, and I only play single player games).

So, I don't know what to do. I need y'all's suggestions, please. I'll aggregate all of the suggestions and go through them and (hopefully) come up with something good for my sanity. Please suggest anything you think fits my situation. I don't care, I will 100% appreciate every single suggestion and look into it.

I'm planning to take it slow on the switch, and do a lot of research before switching. Unless my system shits the bed more than now then I don't know. I currently can't upgrade my system, as I wouldn't be able to log in after the update. It just fails to log in.

I had to restore a 10 days old snapshot to be able to get back into my damn desktop. I have already copied my whole home directory into another drive I have on my PC, so if shit hits the fan, I'll at least have my data. Help a tired brother out, please <3. Thank you so much in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I used Fedora, and am now leaving for the exact reason you're leaving Arch (plus IMO bad repos). Switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed a few months ago and am having a much better experience than with Fedora :D; I use the PC for programming, audio recording and mixing, document stuff, etc. (No gaming though).

Nobara is good but does break regularly, FYI... If you're a "power-user" I wouldn't recommend it as a daily driver.

There's also Void Linux, which hasn't ever broken on me due to an update, but is still a lot of work, due to its nature. It's actually quite stable though, and you might enjoy it, since it's quite similar to Arch and has very large repos.

I can't say much about immutable distros, as the only one I've used is bazzite, which was kinda horrible (broke constantly).

Well, I hope that helped. Good luck!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Set it and forget it, eh?

Any distro you like, as long as you stop futzing with it.

Seriously... they're breaking because you change things. Linux machines stay up for years without issue. Stop breaking the install.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenSuse Leap or even Tumbleweed. After getting the media codecs up and running, and remembering to set you firewall zone to "home", you're pretty golden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Opensuse is absolutely not a set it and forget it distro. I get recommending your favorite distro to other users, but telling them it's an easy to use distro is absolutely false and sets them up for disappointment. You have to download the codecs yourself if you want to do so much as watch a video on firefox, for which you have to add a new repo. I've tried it for two days and I've already spent half of them fixing bugs or snapping back to a version that worked because it froze after sleeping before I even did anything with it other than log in.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

use fedora. linus torvals uses it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using Linux for more than a decade and distro hopped quite a bit. Mint used to be my happy place, but recently within the last 5 years or so I've been on Arch derivatives. Endeavour was never stable enough for my liking, but Manjaro has been great. I did have to go back to a snapshot once, fairly recently, but that was primary because I fecked it up and not due to an update.

You mentioned that you have tried several Arch-based distros, so I'm not sure if this includes Manjaro.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could some of the instability issues you have on arch could come from what you are installing from AUR?

I use AUR for a few things and it is a great resource but the packages are maintained by users and can cause issues.

I update those packages carefully, remove them if I am no longer using them and reconsider which ones i actually need installed in the first place.

While doing this I have only had a handful of issues pop up while updating and usually there is a recent thread describing the issue and how to fix it after a quick search.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

OpenSUSE Leap is the way to go my dude. It's been formulated by pedantic Germans and you can't go wrong with YAST/zypper for package management.

[–] jbrains 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never wanted a hobby, but rather an operating system. I've been using Pop! for over six years. I only had one stretch where I felt like I was chasing annoying bugs and I don't remember it clearly enough to remember how long it lasted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I never wanted a hobby, but rather an operating system.

That's exactly how I'm starting to feel. I was a "distro-hopper" when I was new to it, but now I just want shit to work. The only thing stopping me from pop is the state of their distro at current time. It feels like it's been abondened or something. I know they're busy with cosmic, but that's what it looks like. Also, I'm a kde plasma only person. I just can't use anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fedora. Ubuntu lost the crown.

If you want AUR specifically then you can only use Arch. That's the Arch package manager, and every distro has its own. Fedora has DNF, Debian/Ubuntu has apt...etc

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try blendOS. It's basically Arch but immutable. And SteamOS also exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has been some time since I gave this a proper look. Do you use this yourself? If so, would you be so kind to share some of your experiences?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used Silverblue and tried HoloISO, but it's the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, I was referring to BlendOS if that wasn't clear*.

However, if you did understand my intentions right away, then I'd regard it an oversimplification to 'equate' their respective experiences. Regardless, I do appreciate your input! Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Garuda is about the same.

Arch base, preconfigured for btrfs snapshots on Pacman updates (and they provide a handy garuda-update wrapper to that), many niceties already done for you.

I've used the snapshot feature a couple times and only because the Nvidia drivers botched something horribly and I went back to the same snapshot a couple times.

And I use distrobox (rootless podman FTW) for some crap too. Like that time I needed WebEx at a moment's notice for a call (and they only provide a deb and rpm). Or spur of the moment dev environments when I don't wanna futz around with vscode devcontainers.

But with arch-based stuff, you gotta read the Pacman output. If you don't wanna, definitely reconsider immutable. Next time I can be bothered to reinstall, that's where I'm headed. Heck, you can start a distrobox with Arch and install all the AUR shit you please without a major worry.

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