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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Aberdeen and Glasgow too tbh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Come to Australia! If you’re on the west coast of America, it’s not even that ridiculous a journey. It’s quite like America in lots of good ways, and less so in the insane, gun-toting ways. (Lots of idiot-trucks still, though 😞)

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

And as far as I’ve seen the numbers it’s working too. Anywhere in Europe that is academic or sciency is seeing record numbers of Americans applying. The brain drain will be real.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It has already been happening for several years now, it's just accelerated since Trump. Even before his first term there was a "negative brain drain" of educated workers no longer coming into the US because the benefits (paid time off, health care, etc) are so much worse compared to other countries, even when considering the higher pay. America used to rely on a steady stream of incoming highly educated workers.

But now there is a huge amount of well established academics leaving for Canada, EU, or anywhere else that will pay them. I work in a physics department at a large R1 university in a very liberal state, and we are losing 4 (that I know of) high regarded professors just this year alone moving to other countries.

The brain drain is here, and won't be reversing course even if Trump suddenly disappears. We would have to completely change how we reward work and our failing healthcare system for anything to change.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Makes sense. This is doing decades of damage. Plenty of past groundbreaking research came out of the US. But I get it. I wouldn’t want to move to the US either for very much the same reasons. Lack of affordable healthcare, lack of paid holidays and gun safety would be the main reasons. Lack of food regulation would also be a concern. And now the current regime and the way too large chunk of the population that still seems happy with it means we put even tourist travel plans to the US on hold. Too scary at the moment. Trying to help the best I can from here, but there’s only so much you can do at a distance.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Orange Diaper is burning my country’s goodwill to the ground and I’m so happy to see the rest of the world telling us to fuck off, and more importantly fucking with Americas wallet.

Consequences for bad behavior is the only way it ever gets corrected.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It low-key reads like one of those "lonely singles in your area" ads.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah brain drain isn't as cool when it happens here, is it?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this why Elon is pushing for anti-immigration parties in the EU? He doesn't want people to leave?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Of course he doesn't want people to leave, how can he be king if all his serfs leave?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Their schools were already orders of magnitude cheaper. Get ready for extreme brain drain!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Completely free. Kind of. It's like less than €200 a year to study at a university in Finland.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is true only for students from the EU/ETA area: for students from outside it is a minimum of 1500€/year to study in a school of higher education.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Which is still cheap for many Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I'm hoping to get into a pretty well regarded game dev school in Sweden that is $25k USD for the entire degree. Comparing it with anything similar in the US is mind boggling. Schools here are impossibly expensive

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 days ago (7 children)

They look like they’re being told to smile or a family member will be killed.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I've spoken to some Fins and it's being that close to another human being causing that.

/S but only slightly

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Living somewhere else is quite tempting in a grass is greener way, but it feels like moving out of my house because of pests. What I'd really rather do is eradicate the pests and get my home back. Even if I move, how long until I have to suffer new pests? Meanwhile the more sane of the two completely out of touch parties that comprise my government are like my housemate, and they keep leaving food wrappers and shit all over the place and they refuse to call an exterminator because it would be "cruel". But these no-kill traps ain't doing shit. Figuratively speaking, of course.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Makes me very sad because of course brain drain is inevitable under the circumstances, but selfishly I worry for my families future without them. We can’t afford to get out. Many of us didn’t have the opportunities to become someone who could leave the country in any capacity, let alone now. Just…please if you’re considering this, remember who you’re leaving behind that aren’t the Trump sycophants. I know it’s not your job to fix anything. But if you’re moving to some place because it’s more equitable, I would find it extremely hypocritical that you would be contributing to inequality yourself by doing so.

And, if you’re still not convinced, think about this. This ad is specifically for Finland. That’s a country that just joined NATO because it rightfully fears Russian aggression. But now NATO isn’t a reliable alliance, and Europe will be scrambling to create its own defensive pact. Finland is one of the most immediately vulnerable in this gap however - so, if you move there and Russia comes knocking, when does the running stop? Do you now stay in Finland or do you just keep running?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Actual free market at work, as opposed to the shit we have in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

We have quite a shortage of doctors and other medical professionals in Slovenija. Come on over, guys!

ETA: and professors to teach at the medical university.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Most countries welcome medical professionals with open arms. They are always shortlisted. ;)

PS: I love Slovenija, it is so pretty. I reccomend it too!

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