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Liberal Party members have chosen former central banker Mark Carney to be their new leader and the next prime minister of Canada.

Carney secured enough votes in the first round of voting to win the job, party president Sachit Mehra announced.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Good, but I won't sleep easily until the crypto-MAGAist Pierre Poilievre is on the ash heap of history.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

I too will love to see the knives out for PP once he loses the general election. He’s been such a sniveling Trunp toady no other party would support his party in a minority situation . All Carney has to do is prevent a conservative majority, my guess is that Carney has the potential to do even better than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm gonna assume it's the 2nd option

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

There is another use of that term, but a hyphen would have helped.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Entirely expected, but still a relief. He is the most likely Liberal candidate to potentially take a win from the Cons or at least take away a majority from them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Explains why Conservative attack ads have been so focused on Carney lately. They're scared!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago

Extremely.

A lot of polls put the Cons ahead of the Liberals by a few points, but trailing if Carney was leader.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (10 children)

Too bad for Chrystia Freeland. I think she would have been a great PM. I watched her speak a few times, and she is well-spoken, smart, and has that little edge like she'd really destroy you if you forced her to.

I would have voted for either, though, and I'm happy for Mark Carney. He'll do a great job.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I think she's kinda like Harris in the US. She probably would have done a good job, but is too similar to (and tainted by) the person before. It's not worth the risk right now to choose her and lose to the cons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Politics is harsh. You have to have the personality to communicate effectively to the people. Chrystia just doesn't have that politician's personality. She isn't engaging at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Not nearly as bad as PP. Every time I hear the guy speak, it's like he'd rather be doing something else.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

It's just not the time for her. I respect her deeply and thought she was great in the debate, and she did a great job last time Trump was in power.

I just think she couldn't win the next fight (the general election), and frankly I think a PM who Trump completely loathes would become his punching bag instead of his foil. Freeland could take a punch for sure -- don't mean to imply she's weak, but I think it wouldn't help.

I worry about Carney not being an outspoken and charismatic leader against Trump. Between Pollievre and Trump I think he's going to get dumped on, but I trust that he won't care because he'll be heads down enough on the technical sides of leadership it doesn't matter. We're already united, he can be a general and tactician.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

I’m actually not worried about Carney being thoughtful and considered while Trump is a loud mouth moronic idiot with no coherent plan. Let Trunp be who he’s gonna be and we’ll do our thing, separate from the US clownshow. I mean we’ll have to deal with them a bit but it’s like a toxic ex who you have to deal with because you have kids together but other then that, you lead a completely separate life.

[–] sbv 10 points 21 hours ago

I just think she couldn't win the next fight (the general election)

She's too closely associated with Trudeau. I think Trudeau's popularity turned around partially because he was leaving - his replacement wouldn't be able to use that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

The liberals chose well!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Carney's win was not a surprise, but I think the margin that he won by was a surprise for many.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

So we'll likely be heading into an election in June.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Reminder of the Liberal's record on proportional representation: "Liberals never wanted to β€œmake every vote count.”… Electoral reform has become a bonbon offered at election. As far back as 1919, Liberals have campaigned on the promise of proportional representation"

Mark Carney's position on electoral reform: "open". However...

  1. He’s an economist, and the mathematics pairs quite nicely with the mathematics of electoral systems.
  2. His public persona is that he is intelligent. But when asked specifically about electoral reform and proportional representation, he says he’s uncertain and open to exploring options? Why would someone as smart as him be uncertain about ensuring every vote counts.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Means he's unfamiliar with the issue, or doesn't want to take a position lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Given the Liberal's failings on proportional representation, I tend to think it's the latter: he doesn't want to take a position

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