Overview:
The community to discuss buying European goods and services.
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There might be some changes that could improve it further:
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Why are brave, lineage os and youtube revanced there, but not aurora store
And Stremio but not Jellyfin?
Fun that Element is on the list, while there is a 3rd bill attempt in a year to forbid or bypass encryption in instant messaging. Europe maybe not as fascist as US or Russia, it's still is a shitty capitalist and imperialist place.
Lineage OS doesn't support Bootloader Re-locking (well tbf that's a manufacturer issue) and Verified Boot, so its a huge security issue. Like, if you want to avoid google and have security, Graphene OS is the only real option for a phone, which ironically, is only available on a Google Phone 🙃
Netflix... ---> thepiratebay[DOT]org (replace [DOT] with a dot) 🏴☠️😉 (might need a VPN since some countries block it, and you wouldn't want to torrent without a VPN anyways)
And Briar for messaging (Android Only). It's all Peer-to-Peer, and doesn't go through ANY central servers, maximum independence. And censorship resistant because of default Tor usage, and also local Bluetooth synching for like mass protests, in case your government also gets a bit... fascist... and shut down the internet.
Theres also CalyxOS, which is not only easier to install than lineage, but also relocks the bootloader and includes MicroG, which improves overall compatibility (especially regarding banking apps).
torrents-csv.com works great
Lineageos apparently does but you need to build and sign it yourself
I feel like there would be value in having a "self hosted" column or tag. Like I think jellyfin should be on this list but if I went to switch from a streaming service to a self hosted jellyfin I'd be immediately upset that this list isn't offering alternatives that are "ready to play" so to speak.
Just a friction point deterrence.
Yes, if I create my own version I will add something to differentiate.
Also add Fairphone (Netherlands) and Nothing (UK) as alternatives to iPhone and other Androids.
I thought that section was more to get away from stock android and google rather than just US companies, I have a nothing phone and it very much uses regular android and google services though the bootloader is unlockable to install something like LineageOS.
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It's very simple, and - most important of all - doesn't require an account.
I'm using it for the first time, so I don't have much of a review, but the first impression is very good for my use case.
Linux Mint is the simplest Linux distro if you come from Windows, unless there are others that recommendation is pretty much accurate.
Anyone else who uses other distros on a daily basis will simply skip that recommendation.
Nobara is a really solid distro for gamers. It's packaged with a lot of stuff to streamline the setup.
Suggesting linux mint specifically is good. Linux is overwhelming to new users, don't give them choice paralysis too.
I completely agree! I switched to Linux Mint yesterday, and please don’t give me a bunch of alternatives before even deciding to try out Linux 🤣 Took me much longer to take the leap BECAUSE of all those alternatives.
I honestly agree here. Better to suggest a specific distro than just saying "use Linux".
So as someone who recently went from MacOS to Linux (at least partially) Mint is terrible for macOS users. It is like going back to windows. I get it is the easiest for Windows users but maybe add a row for Macos to Fedora or something (but maybe it is too complicated, I just know most mac users would scoff at Mint's interface).
Actually a solid point, we should suggest a flavor of Linux that prefers Gnome for Mac users. It's the closest default to their workflow afaik
Have you tried https://hyprland.org/? I installed on an Mac Air (2013) over Arch and it works surprisingly well. Otherwise, if you want the macOS touch you could try https://elementary.io/
I have not yet :) Currently using Fedora XFCE, my first distro (tried Mint as well but wasn't for me) as most others failed to install on my mac and Fedora workstation was too slow on the old thing.
XFCE is however really good for keyboard navigation, never have to touch my mouse. My biggest issue with GNOME coming from MacOS was that keyboard navigation in the GUI was very inconsistent. The part that I always liked with MacOS was overall design philosophy enforced everywhere. Still, for many Mac users GNOME is probably still preferable because it is so incredibly readable, just works and looks good.
I'll look into hyprland, thank you!
I get the desire to post "simple" answers like this. And while some of the recommends do make sense... I believe the lists should be better researched. A few other comments also pointed out some of the issues already.
I've noticed with a lot of these lists that worse/unreasonable/less private/less secure/not even European or FOSS are being recommended as alternatives and I think they do more harm than good for people that might need genuine help making this process more simple. They also tend to miss a lot of excellent alternatives.
For what it's worth, these lists oversimplify and can't take into account individual needs, so own research is always necessary IMO.
For me, it's paramount that the software we use is secure and privacy respecting / transparent. A great resource for good recommendations is: privacyguides.org .
This is the pic that made me join
Nice, if you have any questions about Lemmy feel free to ask
you love to hear it
I see that this is focused on foss alternatives streaming wide I would suggest mubi and your local library which often include streaming services. At least here in Germany.
signal is a good option for messaging. it is technically american, but i feel like FOSS projects should generally get a pass.
also, as an american who is very not okay with what our (russia's) government (puppet) is doing, wouldn't supporting non-american businesses mean paying the tariffs and supporting the oligarchs? i'm not really sure what us yanks can do besides just trying not to spend ANY money.
Signal is extremely expensive, they pay $15m+ to Google and Amazon because they don’t self-host so around half of their donations go directly to tech oligarchy
what us yanks can do besides just trying not to spend ANY money.
That's about to get a lot easier. How do you feel about a $3000 laptop? Car manufacturing might just stop temporarily. They've got a month to figure out how to change pretty major processes that companies may not have the current ability to change.
And let's see if they're going to move into the US or out.
Bluesky absolutely belongs in the left column.
It's not Transparent, Decentralized or Open Source.
It is a centralized social media network exactly like Twitter. The only 'open' part is a protocol that lets you interact with their, private, service.
The fact that it is 'open source' is largely a red herring, if Bluesky decides to no longer support their protocol then it is worthless. It cannot simply be forked and remain useful.
Bluesky is simply engaging in a PR campaign to steal customers from Twitter. It is exactly the same as Twitter in all of the ways that matter. It can be purchased by Musk or manipulated by the existing owner in the same way as Twitter.
Making a Bluesky account is simply trusting a new corporation to not act like a corporation in the future... which is a pretty naive position.
Ecosia is not open source, or decentralized. It is a private search engine based in Germany that provides search results from the major search engines and sells advertisements via Yahoo and Microsoft ad networks. These ad networks are part of Surveillance Capitalism and earn their money primarily by spying on you, collating your data and selling it/using it to place ads.
Stremio is largely a piece of software used to funnel people into paying for monthly for pirate streaming services. It's not getting rid of Netflix or Disney+, it's giving you the option of paying Russian or North Korean supported cybergangs instead of Netflix for access to streaming content.
The real open source alternative is Jellyfin. Then using qBittorrent along with Sonarr and Radarr to self-host your own media server.
The other suggestions are mostly okay with minor gripes.
It is exactly the same as Twitter in all of the ways that matter.
I think the fucking Nazi at the head matters.
There are Nazis at the head of Lemmy instances. Because it isn't centralized it's very easy to deal with.
When there is a centrally controlled social media and a Nazi takes over, it is a huge problem and requires a large amount of social effort to solve.
Bluesky could be purchased by Elon (or the current owner may decide they prefer the alt right by this time next year) and then we'd be in the same situation.
The weakness in Twitter and Bluesky is central control. Elon just provided a very poignant example as to why.
Don't use Bluesky and also delete Twitter. Don't support the idea of a single person or entity controlling the social lives of everyone else.
+1. Was really surprised to see ecosia (searx!?) and stremio as the only options of their categories; kinda sketchy...
Graphene should also for sure be included, even if it's Pixel only. I don't care that much about Bluesky as I've dealt first-hand with trying to get my gen-x mother on mastodon, and failing spectacularly. It's not better in the long run, but in the short term it's good to leave Twitter, simply to lose Elon some money. Either way, the list is kinda weird.
Edit: also, only mention droidify and not plain f-droid, obtainium, and Aurora? What?
Edit: corrected last edit
lol… Brave… Come on man.
Yeah, I was gonna say… Recommending Brave isn’t a great look right now. Especially right in the wake of the Brave CEO going off on that unhinged ultra conservative rant.
And Firefox recently had its own controversy, with the removal of their “we promise never to sell your info” section of their ToS. When questioned, they basically responded with “well some jurisdictions define “sell” as “exchanging for money”… We don’t agree with that. But because some jurisdictions do define it that way, we need to remove that section. All we want to do is exchange your info for money. But again, we don’t think that should be considered selling your info.”
Delta Chat is European and is better alternative for messaging apps
I’m very curious about Delta Chat! You have a good experience with it? I just downloaded it but haven’t started telling people to get it with me yet.
Oh yeah. You can use their servers or any email server that supports IMAP. Messages are PGP encrypted. Could require some advanced setup if you want to use it on several devices, but there is a way.
Yeet Brave & element. add jabber and irc. Swap mint 4 fedora atomic.
IRC still exists?
Why should Element be removed?