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Him calling the GOP weird was not a gaffe but the campaign made him walk away from that language because it might offend potential turncoats. The fact he is internalizing the criticism worries me.
My only "problem" with the weird-comments were that they were overused. While it is certainly true, and Waltz had every reason to call it out, supporters often kept repeating it in the context of "look how triggered Republicans are by this". After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning "let's go brandon" into every situation.
My only problem with the “weird” verbiage is that it was far too soft.
The GOP is far beyond “weird” and well into full-blown Fascist territory.
But we wouldn’t want to “alienate” anybody by speaking facts!
But the thing about the "weird" verbiage is that it pissed them off way more than the harder insults. Especially if you phrase the accusation correctly.
For example, here's a good response to a MAGA shitting on trans children, "it's really weird that you care so much about children's genitals."
It's because they don't have a defense for it. They can do mental gymnastics for the harder stuff pretty easily because those terms are in black and white. Weird is a very grey area term, and they have to explain why the behavior is normal.
They can do mental gymnastics for the harder stuff pretty easily because those terms are in black and white. Weird is a very grey area term, and they have to explain why the behavior is normal.
They also spend most of their time trying to argue that their political party is on the side of normal; so they find it very necessary to discuss at length how normal they are which only makes them look weirder.
It really was an effective line of attack. I guess that's why it had to be jettisoned in favor of parading around with Liz Cheney.
Yeah, but they don't care if you call them fascists. Calling them weird made them freak out, because not fitting in is what makes fascists target you next
They all think "if I were in charge of the world it would be great, and they're all just like me! We just have to get rid of a few problems mucking up the works"
Weird works because if they were looked into even slightly, they're creepy as hell. They've got all kinds of SA allegations, say creepy things they've been thinking about kids, and they go around accusing others of their kinks
They can shake off being called a Nazi, you could bring up their rape charges, but none of that matters
It's vibes based, so you have to question their vibes before you can apply logic
Oh man I can't wait for right-wing/foreign propaganda to tell progressives what they should hate about Walz.
And don't forget this from a russian propagandist in 2015 (archived reddit link):
“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”
He's got some things going for him. Male. Presumably heterosexual. Caucasian. Old (but perhaps not quite old enough). I say go for it.
Is he going to play a centrists or actually move the needle?
Don't need another "capitalist Harris"
Seemed like a genuine awesome dude, love what he's done in Minnesota but I lack faith that in the democratic party he'll do any good. That and he needs to work on debating....
Rather have AOC
That said better than most of the geriatric pandering democratic ineffective options. Even though he'll be close to 70....
Walz was the main reason I voted for a right winger like Kamala anyway.
Please, do FUCKING NOT.
His debate performance was poor against Vance. We don't need a kindly father-figure running against Republicans, we need an attack dog that knows police cold, who can articulate that tax cuts cost more in tax revenues than we make up in added jobs, economic growth, etc., someone that's going to actively piss-off billionaires and then not kiss their asses once they have power... We need a leftist populist, someone that will get people fired up.
Walz is not that guy.
One lesson that I've seen in politics over and over again is Dems running the same candidate in a rematch, and the rematch always goes worse than the original election.
His debate performance was poor against Vance.
it was perfectly fine? He could most definitely run well after trump, due to the classic american flip flop phenomenon. Chances are he'd win, if the public is upset enough about how trump did, which right now, isn't looking great. And probably will continue to be that way.
He's literally obama, but white.
walz has also had a historically successful career in politics? Just look at what minnesota is doing.
Walz/Sanders ticket, please.
Sanders is old and wants to retire. Walz/Cortez instead.